Match Day Thread Vs Tottenham (A)

They're all bollocks.

 

not really

 

It's over-analysis. Whether or not these things have value to coaching staff I have no idea, but what use is it to fans to watch a game that ends 3-0 and be told the xG was 1.7 to 0.9 or whatever?
Who grades the chances, and on what authority do they deem one chance better than another?
Just watch the bloody game.

 

It's the Championship Manager era mate, stats about stats to prove how useful a fourth set of stats are...

 

Love 'em or hate 'em, stats are part of the modern game. Clubs use them for everything as a means to improve their own performance, analyse others, scout prospects, form their tactical approach, help decide which players for which games and on and on ......

I read an article recently on Bielsa who is so obsessed with football that (as well as sending 'spies' to opposition training sessions) he does a 300 hour analysis on every opponent before playing them. The article didn't say it was a 300 hour taped piece so I guess the analysis contains every possible statistic available as well.

 

xG uses actual data. Far better than paying ex-players £1m salaries to trot out lines like "he has to do better there".

 

Can't argue with that one.

 

It is not one or the other though. The same useless ex players still get their £1m salaries and can now say: "the stats show he has to do better there"

 

It's comical hearing ex-players coming out with that ****. They should be in a better position than anyone to know how easy it is to screw up in an instant - they've all done it often enough themselves.

 

You don't need to be a ex-professional player to know that

 

Anyone who's ever played at any level knows how a bad bounce, a bit of spin or a lot of pressure can put you off, but ex-pros shouldn't be such pricks about it.

 

Jamie Redknapp is the worst. No analysis or insight whatsoever.

Last weekend, Carra and Neville were discussing how they think Mourinho has adapted and changed, talking about formations and tactics. Jamie pipes in and says ‘he’s taking selfies with fans. He’s happier’.

In some respect, I do ‘feel sorry’ for pundits because they’re set up to fail. There’s no way you can add insight and thoughtful analysis on a team unless you watch them every game. Pundits may watch 90 mins occasionally but they can’t do it for every game. You need to have specialists who cover specific teams.

 

They also have to cater for the less knowledgeable fan too

 

I agree that they're set up to fail.
On MotD they may have to comment on 6 or 7 games, and they can't possibly have watched them all. They talk about specific teams with only a fraction of the exposure to that team experienced by its dedicated fans, so basically every real fan is going to see them as fairly ignorant of their own team.
It isn't that that I object to in this case - it's more about the "he's got to do better" comments by people who really should know better. With some exceptions, players generally don't **** up because they can't be arsed - it's because it isn't as easy as it looks.

On a related note - I do think there's far too much analysis on these programmes, as I mentioned in another post.
MotD is on for much longer than it needs to be to show the highlights, and I for one don't want to be up 'til all hours because it's padded out with too much talk. Not too mention all those arty intro pieces they do for some big games. I really just want to watch the football, and I think the whole experience is bloated with stuff I don't really care about.

 

I agree with your comment about the unnecessary padding out of motd. If I'm going to watch it I look for the running order and tune in then (we're usually on first which makes it easier) and switch off before the waffling.

The thing that irritates me more is the in game commentary. I usually watch with no sound on but I find you do lose the experience of the match atmosphere in doing that and now with VAR you need the commentary at those times to know what's happening. The amount of times the commentators say e.g. 'that's never a penalty ' only for the replays to show that it was indeed a penalty, is amazing. They don't add to the excitement or inform any novices in their audience. I don't know what the answer is as most viewers will want commentary. Maybe one of those robotic things like they have on YouTube

 

Yeah, I forgot about Diego.

 

I suspect they assume most fans have seen at least some of the goals at the very least by then so think they need to add something "extra" . Why they then use dinosaurs to discuss football when they clearly have little idea of the rules pertaining today is beyond me .