What 3 things made you vote to leave Europe ...

How many members does it have ...

... or is that classified information.

 

Only from thicko’s

 

58000

 

They use the tried and tested 'parenting weapons' of blackmail and bribery ...

... either threatening bad things or promising good.

"With a Brexit deadline just days away, Britain's biggest car plant "will not be sustainable" if there is no deal, Nissan has warned."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-54986195.amp

This has been a good thread and polite debate, that people have enjoyed, so far ...

... please don't start with the childish insults.

 

Immigration seems to be the most prevalent reason so far, hard to disagree with people on that although it's a complex issue.

 

I thought that’s what you were digging at with your questions but obviously not

 

£300 million investment with a potential rise of up to £40Bn would suggest they were talking rubbish. The ground had already been broken before Nissan tried this old method of blackmail.

 

To be fair they've been threatening to close the place since before it opened

 

Not for me, but it's easy to see why it's a problem. Absolutely no debate on the subject is tolerated in the EU, let alone any moves to change it.

 

They certainly have... all for the sake of trying to gain a few more millions from the government.....I know this from the discussions at the time the first Thatcher government brought Nissan to Sunderland.

 

Most of the Nissan vehicles are rated pretty high, other than the Trail?

The qashqai, was the first of its type and has had several re-iterations since and is probably the best SUV £ for £... that you can get. Leaf really the first EV, but distance wise has fallen behind others..

 

Have you seen the state of some of the MP's these days? Just smooth talking scruffy chavs who are in it for themselves. # Kernts

 

Whereas the PM looks like he dressed in his roommates clothes during a fire drill.

 

Tis the persona, the "character" Smug

 

Here you go......lots of firms i've never heard of which is good to see

https://madeingreatbritain.uk/

means i'm not restricted to wearing the limited UK-built kit by barbour, burberry & DM. Would have felt a bit awkward going to work/the school run in only a wax jacket, some 18-holers and a sun hat.

 

Dunno how Dr Martens has the nerve to go on there. From memory they, at one time, moved all of their production to China and sold the company to a takeover outfit with most of its headquarters abroad.

I doubt much of what they make has had a British hand on it tbh.

 

I agree with you and it's a big problem that hasn't been properly addressed.

I'd guess the majority of 'UK to Europe' people have particular skills whereas many, in the other direction, are just cheap labour.

When you get large numbers of immigrants they'll inevitably create enclaves where they live with their countrymen and don't mix.

They'll have their own shops, etc and speak their own language but expect the NHS, schools, benefit system, etc, to support them.

If immigration had been more regulated I doubt people would've voted to leave Europe ...

... I don't believe, for a second, that most people really care about fish quotas as much as they claim

 

Yes one of the least appealing aspect of the well-off remoaners, was that they blamed the ignorant racist working class for the leave vote. Perhaps, particularly in London, if the well off had used British construction gangs for their loft conversions/basement rooms instead of East European cost cutters, resentment would not have been so great?
Then in addition the better-off did not have to share, scarce housing, GPs and schools etc with our new citizens either.

So yes, immigration was an issue for many and it was badly handled... especially by the labour party who alienated many of their core vote by accusing them of racist attitudes.

 

Barnier is going to if he wins next years election...the two faced b*****d

Source; Newsworld 2nd June 2021

The EU’s former Brexit negotiator Michel Barnier wants immigration to France from outside the bloc to be stopped for up to five years.

Mr Barnier, who is tipped to run against Emmanuel Macron in next year’s French presidential election, called for a moratorium so that France could “take the time to verify, evaluate and if necessary change” its immigration policies.

Immigration to Europe is linked to "terrorist networks which use migration flows and infiltrate them," he said.