Who would you have as Leeds uniteds captain ?

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  1. Whitejock

    Whitejock Well-Known Member

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    Well done sir!

    Got to remark on the 'clearances' section. I doubt we'll ever get in that table as we always choose to play out rather than clear (often when completely inadvisable, but we still go for it).
     
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  3. sniffer1

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    ariel battles won cooper 10th with darnell furlong a defender at WEST BROM in 9th if that is something to be proud about then god help us , i meant to say on my previous post TACLES SECTION where LUKE AYLING IS 1ST EVEN DALLAS COMES IN AT 10TH and COOPER trails in at 14th so please read between the lines .
     
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    oh and blondie i dont hate cooper , i just think he should not be captain , h is not vocal enough , he does not push us on when we are trailing in matches and he makes horrendous mistakes ( and here is the key words about cooper UNDER PRESSURE MISTAKES ) which a top quality defender and professional does not or makes very little , thats why i say philipps should be captain
    I dont hate cooper blondie i just want leeds utd defence to improve then we move higher up the table , cooper for me has not rallied the team after going behind , not vocal enough to command respect from the team , the game against aston villa although it was costa who should have stopped the villa player who scored i heard it was coopers heel that played him onside , cooper not moving out with the rest of the defence as fast , if ben white had been there there would not have been a chance of that happening and ben white was the one that improved cooper now he is not here cooper is like a headless chicken at times thats why one of the reasons why he also should not be captain , next season leeds need a really good left back and a strong central defender if not put stryk there and drop cooper to be a sub when we need him .

    think about it cooper as captain does not get dropped therefore i think he lets his game drop because no chance of him getting dropped , the stats website previously put on does not lie .
     
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    I think the absolute defensive ‘stats’ often say more about the performance of the team than the individual - if you’re top of clearances it normally means you’ve just had to make a lot of them... the % duels won stats are a bit more reflective.

    I think cooper’s been generally good this season. He looked nervy in the early games, but has settled down. Does he get done occasionally? Yes he’s playing against top players.

    is he the best captain? I get sniffer’s point about vocal captains, dragging teams by the scruff of the neck, bawling out the players. Not sure that’s the norm in modern football. There were occasions over the last few seasons where I felt some inspirational leadership to lift a flagging the side would have been good. But it’s not like, ‘oh we’re getting stuffed, just needs a thumping tackle, a rampaging run and a bit of shouting and we’ll turn it around’

    Should the captain be automatic first choice? Would cooper be if everyone was fit? Not really been relevant this season... but certainly could be. However, You can still have a club captain and different captain on the pitch.

    The players chose him, they obviously like and respect him. That’s good enough for me. And He’s an excellent ambassador for the club.
     
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  7. Whitejock

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    Well done seat sniffer, you've somehow managed to dig your hole deeper when I thought it wasn't possible. Please, please, please get rid of that clown Bielsa - he obviously is not listening to you. Then again, it's a good move by Bielsa, think I'll join him & go back to conversing with Leeds supporters who actually support Leeds. And know something about football.
     
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  8. wakeycentraloneleeds

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    Is leeds lover coming back?
     
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    Didn't he change his name to Sniffer1? <whistle>
     
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    Thanks others agree with me Scottie so that debunks your theory you might learn something instead of being deaf to it , also bielsa and Leeds did ok when cooper was out injured so he will know but bielsa will keep it to himself and he will not tell you what he thinks of cooper
     
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    Good points the game is about different points of view I respect that but as I say my point is cooper is not vocal enough , a captain can be vocal and still get the team respecting him it's the way he can say things which I don't think cooper takes charge enough and goes missing in some games , he did not hold the line when pushing out defence against villa also I still don't trust him when we are playing a good team under pressure and making mistakes , I think people know the games this season , he is up against higher quality players and therefore we need a higher quality defender let's hope llorente steps up and does not get injured , also if a captain is easy on players they might like that as then they can get away with mess ups but in the long run it catches up as it has in a few games.
     
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    I haven't commented lately because it's impossible arguing with opinion. You're welcome to your opinion but don't confuse it with actual facts:
    The players want Cooper as Captain and Bielsa let's the players choose so you are questioning the whole team.
    Name me one vocal Captain for a top side, Macquire? Fernandinho? Even Wes Morgan? None are vocal types in the mould of a Roy Keane.

    Do you blame Henderson for Liverpool's poor run of results?

    A Captain inspires his team. Cooper hosts the huddle in the middle and you don't know how he is in the dressing room. I don't want a player losing his **** because we've conceded. Remember Joe Hart or Pickford whose performances suffered because they got too emotional.
    Please get over that Cooper's ankle kept someone on side, if you don't see how ridiculous that is just ask a neutral, they'll tell you.

    You say you don't hate Cooper but it sure looks like you don't like him.

    If the players and Bielsa are happy with Cooper then so am I.
     
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    It's the 1st season in premiership and we still mostly got championship players other players and circumstances will come into the side and give bielsa and players other thoughts so as we progress cooper will be replaced so I'm not too bothered , other Leeds fans also agree and can see cooper should not be captain so if they can see it I'm sure some of the players can , and of course the players are going to say Cooper's the best thing since sliced bread as the want to be in the first team and are playing with him thought you would have realised that but maybe not it might be beyond your thinking .
     
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    Since you seem to have resorted to insults I'm going to leave it there.
     
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    no more ridiculous than you assuming i dont like cooper , i said he should not be captain leeds have stronger players personality wise than cooper , no insults , by leaving it there it says it all as you can see now how it would look for a player to say anything against cooper as they could lose their place in 1st team pity you did not think about that angle , glad i was able to point it out to you , you are welcome to comment and put your view even if it is wrong on occassions thats what the posts are about , i have been wrong on occassions but its not just my gut feeling that cooper should not be captain other fans feel the same also .
     
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    i though
    i thought he changed his name to whitejock LOL
     
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    west ham 2 leeds 0 another goal from a corner although messlier should have come for the ball is'nt it the job of the central defender to get his head on it ? now lets see who is our prized central defender tommy cooper ? ha ha LOL just like that ! how many goals this season have come from corners ohh it cant be coopers fault can it ? LOL
     
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  18. Whitejock

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    Forgot your meds again? Most people (plus media & pundits) that watched the match put it down to the confusion between Llorente & Ayling for losing their man. Cooper? Really? How is it his fault? Dying to hear this one.

    Ever thought of actually watching the match? Someone with a little more patience than me might even tell you the rules. Forget tactics & strategy - no-one will pick up that baby for you. Cue Mission Impossible tune ...
     
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  19. wakeycentraloneleeds

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    Cooper plays left side so not his area to cover when taken from his side. Quite simple really.
     
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    Appreciate the confession <laugh>

    Don't worry you're in good company on here.
     
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