VAR did not overrule it....so it was agreed by both referee & VAR it was a penalty......which make's your view wrong
The referee gave the goal. It is very possible VAR would not have become involved if there was no penalty. VAR's is not there to agree with decisions. VAR evaluates clear and obvious error. VAR does not over rule a refs decision. The ref reviews their own decision where VAR has evaluated there to be a clear and obvious error.
If only the referees would read this forum. It would form part of their educational development and help them to improve standards……..
1For Think you know better. Definitely a fan of NP and grateful for clearing up an inherited mess. Also couldn't believe how NP was removed. As for LM, you and I are both 100% behind him and his methods, and repeat what I've said already that we require at least 3 quality players this summer to progress further.
The referee gave the penalty, it was also checked by VAR.. The decision of the referee was not overruled.. that means both the referee and VAR allowed the penalty.. simple as that.. not complicated.. only you can make it such..you didn’t think it was a penalty… you were wrong..
After watching games since Nige was removed I am now glad it happened.. I didn’t want him gone at the time but only a fool would deny the vast improvement under LM..RR is yet to be convinced..
You have misunderstood how VAR works. VAR does not overrule the referee. VAR doesn't allow a penalty. VAR evaluates if there has been a clear and obvious error. VAR does not intervene where decisions are marginal, or the harsh as you put it. This alters for offsides. VAR does intervene where decisions are marginal because decisions are objective, they can be measured.
If you say so Clifton.. VAR evaluates if there has been a error..there wasn't, the referee called it..it wasn't overruled..the penalty was given, end of.
3. The original decision given by the referee will not be changed unless the video review clearly shows that the decision was a ‘clear and obvious error’. The referee's decision did not show a clear and obvious error....not overruled..penalty given.. in the eyes of both.. you still think it wasn't a penalty...are you right or wrong? according to that you are wrong...
cant expect him to read all of that somebody will have to call an ambulance. Yep he couldnt read it!!!
2. Reviewable match-changing decisions/incidents The referee may receive assistance from the VAR only in relation to four categories of match-changing decisions/incidents. In all these situations, the VAR is only used after the referee has made a (first/original) decision (including allowing play to continue), or if a serious incident is missed/not seen by the match officials. The referee`s original decision will not be changed unless there was a ‘clear and obvious error’ (this includes any decision made by the referee based on information from another match official e.g. offside). The categories of decision/incident which may be reviewed in the event of a potential ‘clear and obvious error’ or ‘serious missed incident’ are: a. Goal/no goal attacking team offence in the build-up to or scoring of the goal (handball, foul, offside etc.) ball out of play prior to the goal goal/no goal decisions offence by goalkeeper and/or kicker at the taking of a penalty kick or encroachment by an attacker or defender who becomes directly involved in play if the penalty kick rebounds from the goalpost, crossbar or goalkeeper b. Penalty kick/no penalty kick attacking team offence in the build-up to the penalty incident (handball, foul, offside etc.) ball out of play prior to the incident location of offence (inside or outside the penalty area) penalty kick incorrectly awarded penalty kick offence not penalised I take it you the side kick agrees...as you would!!
So, clear and obvious error, not as you have posted mere error? Where in the protocol does it state VAR can over rule the refs decision?
That is not an answer to either question. I will add/alter a question. The protocol highlights clear and obvious error, not as you have posted mere error, why does the protocol make that distinction? Where in the protocol does it state VAR can overrule the refs decision?
By the rules of the game it was deemed a penalty...the referee made the decision....VAR could have requested him to view it again..They did not. Satisfied with the decision made...... I will no longer argue with you....It was a penalty end of.....
That is again an answer to neither question. The protocol highlights clear and obvious error, not as you have posted mere error, why does the protocol make that distinction? Where in the protocol does it state VAR can overrule the refs decision?
Not so sure as i dont go around agreeing with what i dont understand and i am learning on this one about var. This here The referee`s original decision will not be changed unless there was a ‘clear and obvious error’ (this includes any decision made by the referee based on information from another match official e.g. offside). so this means if there is just an error not a clear and obvious bollock dropping VAR swerves it and doesnt put it to the ref to review???
It (VAR) can not overrule the referees decision, but it can request the referee to review(check) it..It's been done 100s of times