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Off Topic The cost of living

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by balkan tiger, Apr 25, 2024.

  1. Mckechnie Orange

    Mckechnie Orange Well-Known Member

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    Median is probs 35k. Taking into account all regions.

    That doesn't take much account of regional variance, nor the ever increasing disparity between low and high earners in the post-post-war epoch. (By that I mean post Thatcherite epoch)

    If you live in a dual income household at 35k each, then you're doing OK in the north of England.

    There's a lot of numbers scraping a living on an awful lot less.
     
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  2. SydneyTiger14

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    Compare to Sydney where the latest reports are that in order to purchase a house the average household income needs to be about $270k - I guess about 140k pounds?
     
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  3. originallambrettaman

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    The average house price in Sydney is three times the average price in the UK and that must be an even bigger problem than it is here, as it seems the average wage in Sydney is £48k.
     
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  4. SydneyTiger14

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    It's absolutely ****ed. I feel like my wife and I are just ahead of the crest of the wave - we bought our first place for a very manageable price, but sold it for such an increase that if we were buying it then (only 4 years later) we would have had no chance affording it even on our current wage. How people even just 5-6 years younger than us stand a chance I have no idea.

    I quite genuinely every so often look at places in Beverley and other areas over there and dream wistfully of making the move over..
     
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  5. originallambrettaman

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    I bought my first flat in London in the early 80's, I sold it one year later (it happened to be on exactly the same date a year later), for double what I paid for it.
     
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    Not a bad result then, god knows what it would be worth now
     
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  7. DMD

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    It all makes the state pension seem miserly.
     
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  8. Howdentiger2

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    State pension is a joke and it wouldn't surprise me if by the time I'm old enough to get it, it won't even be available or at the very least a totally different set up etc.... I'm planning my retirement without it and whatever I get is just a bonus
     
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  9. TigerMarv

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    I expect the government to use the auto enrollment of work based pension as an excuse to reduce the state pension once its been in place long enough. It started in 2012 so probably 2062. The problem is many opt out and if not only a small amount is paid in and often into rubbish schemes
     
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  10. originallambrettaman

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    It's currently valued at £350,000, I paid £26,000 for it and it was only a few years old when I bought it (though it was only a studio flat when I bought it and it's since had a roof conversion to make it into a one bad flat).
     
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    I know it's a sensitive subject for some, but I don't think you should be able to opt out. There should be a min you have to pay in from the second you start working. If you've never had it you'll never miss it so to speak.
     
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  12. SydneyTiger14

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    Is the work based pension your superannuation or something separate?
     
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  13. DMD

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    If they keep on increasing the age you get it, they can make it as much as they like, as they'll pay out to fewer and fewer people as time goes on. It saves billions each time they do it, not the we see any of that back elsewhere.
     
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  14. Howdentiger2

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    Yup it'll just keep rising that's a given
     
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  15. Chazz Rheinhold

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    Typo <laugh> or true
     
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  16. Chazz Rheinhold

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    Brids lovely syd honestly get yourself there
     
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  17. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    And not at 67 ****jng ****s
    I’m knackered now
    It should be brought back down to 60
    If any silly ****s want to carry on working let them they can
    I don’t
     
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  18. Edelman

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    Was that around the time when they where getting rid of double tax relief ?
    I bought my first house for £17,000.before they announced it was going and i sold it for double 2 years later
     
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  19. originallambrettaman

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    It was nothing to do with tax relief, I just got it really cheap. It was a Barratt place, they ran a scheme where they'd take back their properties if someone wanted to trade up to a bigger one, but they ended up with way too much stock and started flogging them off cheap.

    It was my second property in Clapham that I should really have held on to, I bought it for £86k and ended up flogging it a couple of years later for roughly the same amount, as a result of the 15% interest rate in the late 80's and the property crash it caused (divorce forced the sale). That one's now valued at £740k.
     
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  20. originallambrettaman

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    It wasn't great. <laugh>
     
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