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Tbh the way I see that is alosno is on a normal.line and stroll turns very sharply.across cutting the line off.

Hamilton imo steams in after they already contacted.

Stroll I honestly think showed either zero awareness or.just trend in cos it was his team mate.

 

Second time Haas have used KMag as a blocker for Hulk and just ignored the penalties.

FIA needs to crack down on it, because it's just blatant cheating and someone will do it in a title fight eventually

 

K-mag should have been given either a drive through or more appropriately a 10 place grid penalty for tomorrow.

He's basically gone and cheated 3 different ways and knew he had zero points coming.

 

They should just black flag kmag next time.

 

When it's obvious team collusion like this, i'd be threatening Haas with DSQ for both cars. They don't care what penalty KMag gets.

Imagine if Perez had been cutting corners and banging wheels with Lewis when he was holding him up in 2021 for instance. This kind of thing can get out of hand quickly.

A willingness to actually use drive-throughs might help i suppose. Gets him out of the way within 3 laps.

 

Alonso on the normal line, lol, if he were Lewis would've absolutely wrecked him, but he sees Hamilton and doesn't turn in. And Hamilton, the car on the inside of Alonso, doesn't make the apex, so how can you say the car outside of him did?

 

Watching Ted's notebook and he made an interesting point that I had been thinking also. He said IF Adrian was going to retire then why did he get Eddie J to negotiate his non compete down to beginning of second quarter of 2025? If he was retiring then he wouldn't care how long his non compete was!

 

What I'm saying is stroll has turned in massively that's all. He's made contact and Hamilton steaming in just added to it.

Had Hamilton not steamed in I'm not sure norris gets hit but the two Aston were destined for thr back of grid no matter what because of boy blunder yet again.

 

Makes sense.

It's patently obvious that he's in talks already.

 

What happened to Danny Ric? 18th and Uki 12th about 0.8sec difference! I was hoping the new chassis and underfloor had given him his confidence back.

 

K Mag doesn’t deserve any more punishment IMHO .

He admitted he was at fault , that he didn’t enjoy doing it .

Even Lewis said it was cool that K Mag said what he said .

Lewis even said it was hard racing .

Some people moan about it not being exciting , then when someone pushes the boundaries, they get slaughtered .

I admit I have said it has been boring , but well done K Mag and Lewis , two RACERS .

If Senna , Mansell , Piquet , Jones Were suddenly to appear and Race under modern rules , they would HATE IT , AND GET PENALISED ALL THE TIME .

 

I think there's two issues here

The first is personal preference about where you draw the line for reasonable defending.

The second one is that the way the line is enforced is encouraging drivers to cross it, which surely can't ever be a good thing.

You should never see drivers deliberately getting themselves penalties because they think it'll hurt other teams more. That's where hard racing has fully given way to petty gamesmanship.

IMO the Lewis was so relaxed about it is because he doesn't care about P8. He'd complain if these games were played over a win or a championship

 

Fair comment , but I enjoyed it .

 

Kmag got overtaken, so he cut the corner and went into the side of Hamilton to retake it, then cut another corner to stay there. Not the first race he's done that in this season either. Hard racing is hard racing, cutting corners to avoid being overtaken isn't.
And IIRC they threatened to take Senna's license away for less.

 

Yup.

I find this hilarious sorry.

Hard racing ends the second you can't make thr corner.

Not giving up. fine.
Braking later. Fine.
Trying to cut back and push. Fine.
Squeezing to take ownership of the line. Fine.

What's going on right now isn't racing.

1. Russell and alonso are regularly weaving and moving in the braking zone to try get away with stuff. Happens every race. Was I shocked those two hit each other and Russell ended up on his side? Nope.

2. K mag hitting people is a regular occurrence

He left the track to gain advantage. It's really that simple. I'd be dropping punishments that really hurt in the next qualifying. The second he was handed a 19 second penalty so that 1 point was gone he decided he would keep Hamilton there put of spite and did so.

The second punishment was a black and white flag and then another 10 seconds.

He should be getting a 10 place grid penalty fo the next race which just happened to be qualifying a couple.hours later.

There was no consequence for bad behaviour there and an actual.bomus for haas as hulkenburg kept his points handily due to the traffic jam.

 

Yeah no doubt.

I’d imagine he’ll go in as an advisor to Ferrari where they keep their current technical structure but let Newey share the key development direction magic. Pretty much what he’s done at Red Bull apparently in recent seasons.

Hamilton seems to give the game away when asked- grinning widely!

Aston are the only others who can offer the £££, although I did see an article on Williams this week where James Vowles has been reaching out just to see if Newey fancied that romantic ending. Sounds a long shot from here but perhaps Adrian does have that little bit of an itch to go back there.

Do we expect an announcement soon or do we think whatever is agreed will be done already and they announce the worst kept secret at his Red Bull stint ends?

 

I don't think it will come out given he is sitting on the pit wall this weekend.

 

Maybe easiest penalty is a drive through. That stops him holding people up and puts him at the back of the grid.

Lets face it he and the team know the penalties and are happy to accept them. I can't blame them for trying everything in the book to get the odd point or 2. If the penalties where harsher then they wouldn't do it. That's not to say I want to stifle racing as wheel to wheel battles are what we want but there have to be rules of engagement so to speak. When Lewis finally got past then Hulk shot up the inside and pushed Lewis off that was not a move intended to hit the apex and undertake, it was purely designed to push Lewis off the track to gain an advantage.

 

I think so but it should be an immediate penalty not a 3 lap later penalty as in a spirit 3 laps of dodgy driving is all thats needed to gap a team mate to ensure the points.

It's not that he did one thing so his apology is utterly hollow. He got 3 sanctions in the time it would have taken to serve a drive through penalty.

However all this just hides how utter **** the merc is in a straight line. If it was any good he would have breezed by

 

How did perez miss everyone there.

Unreal.