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Daily Racing Thread Thursday 28th. May 2015

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  1. attivo

    attivo Well-Known Member

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    Thursday's Meetings

    Haydock

    Flat 7 Races 1:50-4:50p.m.
    Lingfield
    A/W 8 Races 2:00-5:30p.m.
    Worcester
    N/H 7 Races 2:10-5:10p.m.
    Wetherby (E)
    N/H 7 Races 5:40-8:55p.m.
    Fairyhouse (E)
    Flat 7 Races 5:50-9:05p.m.
    Sandown (E)
    Flat 6 Races 6:00-8:45p.m.

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    Good Luck <ok>
     
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  2. Bustino74

    Bustino74 Thouroughbred Breed Enthusiast

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    Two weeks ago I was doubting Mr Stoute could train ivy up a wall anymore, let alone be the finest trainer of our age.. On the morning of the 14th May he was staring at an alarrming 8% strike rate. 13 days later and he's on a 20% strike rate, mainly because in those 13 days he's trained 9 winners with 27 runners. On Thursday he runs the 5yo Arab Spring in the Brigadier Gerard Stakes. It is probably his toughest assignment he's taken on because in the field is the very fine Eagle Top (to whom he gives 3lb) as well as the Gordon Richard stakes winner Western Hymn. There was a lot to like about Arab Spring's John porter not the least being the fact that he covered the last four furlongs at a faster pace than the two Guineas trials that day. He will burn off Gosden's pair tomorrow and also take care of the pushy Tryster to announce his arrival on the big stage.
    Stoute also runs a difficult to spell and pronounce gelding called Areiopagos whose only run has been a distant 2nd to last in a Windsor 10f maiden. He now drops to 8f. You clever not606 punters will remember his two brothers Machinist and Greek Renaissance (group winner). This drop in distance will do him no harm. If the price is right worth Each Way at least.

    Finally Ring of Truth should get off the mark for Hannon and be Royal Ascot bound but she'll be no price.
     
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  3. hawkeye

    hawkeye Well-Known Member

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    I'm expecting Tryster to go vroooooommmm past them all with his explosive turn of foot. 9/4 taken
     
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  4. Bustino74

    Bustino74 Thouroughbred Breed Enthusiast

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    Good luck Hawkeye, you may get a better price tomorrow. Interesting animal
     
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  5. Ron

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    Brigadier Gerard Stakes: Tryster to prove a top-notch racehorse
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    By Timeform -- published 27th May 2015

    A very strong renewal of the Brigadier Gerard Stakes is set to take place at Sandown on Thursday evening, and here’s the Timeform view on the Group3 contest.

    The Brigadier Gerard Stakes may be registered as a Group 3, but it would be little surprise were at least three of this six-strong field to make an impact at the highest level during the course of the season, such is the untapped potential of Arab Spring, Eagle Top and Tryster.

    The obvious place to start is with likely market leader Tryster, who heads Timeform’s weight-adjusted ratings following a highly-successful all-weather campaign comprising of five wins from as many outings, culminating in a phenomenally-impressive success in the Easter Classic on All-Weather Championships Finals Day. The turn of foot – and sectional time – produced by Tryster on Finals Day marked him down as a high-class performer, one with the potential to make his mark at the top level, and he will prove tough to beat if proving as effective back on turf.

    Just behind Tryster on Timeform weight-adjusted ratings is John Gosden’s unpenalised King Edward VII Stakes winner Eagle Top. Eagle Top came a long way in a very short space of time as a three-year-old, running out an impressive winner of that Royal Ascot Group 2, beating subsequent Cox Plate winner Adelaide on just his third start. He wasn’t seen again following a creditable fourth in the King George VI and Queen Elizabeth Stakes, but he’s clearly blessed with plenty of ability and has to be respected on his return to action.

    Another horse who progressed rapidly as a three-year-old was the Sir Michael Stoute-trained Arab Spring. He easily defied top weight in the Duke of Edinburgh handicap at Royal Ascot to complete his four-timer, and, following a disappointing display on his final start last season, resumed progress when landing a Group 3 at Newbury on his return. Arab Spring has done most of his winning at a mile and a half but he’s not slow and is likely to prove as effective back at this trip.

    Arab Spring, Eagle Top and Tryster are the unexposed and exciting trio, but Western Hymn shouldn’t be overlooked following his gallant victory over C&D on his reappearance last month. Western Hymn took the notable scalps of Postponed and Cannock Chase in the Gordon Richards Stakes, and also won the Classic Trial over C&D last year, so is clearly fully effective at this venue.

    The field is completed by Tullius, who has stamina to prove at this trip, and Niceofyoutotellme, who is likely to find at least a few of these too good.

    It’s not easy to identify where the pace is going to come from in this year’s Brigadier Gerard Stakes, and that looks to the advantage of Tryster, whose remarkable acceleration will surely prove decisive in the event of a steadily-run affair. Tryster’s not purely reliant on things developing into a sprint, however, as he also boasts a tremendous cruising speed and simply looks a high-class horse, just one who has taken an unconventional route to the top.

    Recommendation:

    Back Tryster in the Brigadier Gerard Stakes

    Timeform's weight-adjusted ratings:

    138 Tryster
    137 Eagle Top
    132 Arab Spring
    131 Western Hymn
    126+ Tullius
    123 Niceofyoutotellme
    You can view a free Race Pass for the Brigadier Gerard Stakes by clicking this link
     
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  6. SaveTheHumans

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    Agree with Hawkeye here I'm on both Tryster 9/4 and Steady Pace 9/4 6:30 who can confirm placings with King Of Rooks over 5f.

    Couple of nice races to look forward too.
     
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    Also from timeform was this piece.
     
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  8. Fabulous Fabio

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    Sorry to come on and disagree with a couple of you but I'm going to be on Western Hymn(5/1). He won over C&D lto and the form of that race looks decent, he beat Postponed that day who went on to run very well in Ireland over the weekend. Tryster and Arab Spring have potential and look to be big improvers, both have impressed in their own ways, but I think they both have question marks over them for this race. Western Hymn has performed well in better races than this, so I'm going with the tried and tested horse over potential.
     
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  9. Jim Williams

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    Arab Spring for me
     
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    Hey Odddy, Zarzal running tomorrow mate
     
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  11. As We Know

    As We Know 1 of the top judges in Europe

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    CONSORT!
     
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  12. stick

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    GANG WARFARE 8/1 Sandown 6:00
    Spent last season in the highly underperforming Olly Stevens yard so every possibility that this horse could be well handicapped. The stiff uphill finish will bring the horses stamina to the fore and should put in a good performance.
     
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    Fairyhouse 6.30-Gotta good word for Morselle who won lto at Dundalk and is expected to run a decent race for Dermot Weld.Couple of decent horses in there to so not going in too heavy.PP best price 4/1
     
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    The only horse that caught my eye as well. Some of his form for Olly could have him very well in and Simon Crisford couldn't have started his career much better and has already proven that he can take other trainer's horses and improve them.
     
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  15. TopClass

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    Have to say gents that I think Tryster is a lay bet.

    Many horses look good on the All Weather over the winter but almost all the best horses are busy prepping for a turf campaign.

    He may well have a nice turn of foot but Sandown isn't really a track that lends itself to that style- it's a stiff 10f made for grinders and stayers- Think Nathaniels Eclipse win or think Workforce making a good fist of it up against So You Think.

    I can't decide on the winner but the one I will watch with interest with a view to it potentially running at Ascot will be Eagle Top.

    His demolition of Adelaide last season holds up well but the jury is out as to his ability over 10f. Stacked with stamina on the dam side and therefore a mile and a half might suit better.

    Not entirely sure where they are aiming him this year but one to watch.
     
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    Heisman 8 45 Sandown 6/1
     
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  17. OddDog

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    <cheers> for the pointer stick. 14lbs penalty tempered by the 7lbs jockey allowance, currently 5/1 fav. Back up in trip but down in grade, I dunno - not sure he really gets much further than 2 miles to be honest (a good 2nd to Vulcanite over 18F is about the only evidence I can find). Still on a very handy mark but this is competitive and that bloody Pipe horse down the bottom of the weights, together with Jonjo's, make me nervous.
     
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    Morning boys and girls, I hope you're all well. Some quality tipping on here recently so I'm here to water it down a bit with a Yankee to avoid...

    3:50 Hay - CRUISE TOTHELIMIT 16/1
    5:10 Worcs - SUKIYAKI 6/1
    7:20 Weth - EVERYLASTING 10/1
    7:45 Sand - WESTERN HYMN 9/2

    Good luck all!!
     
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  19. Sir Barney Chuckles

    Sir Barney Chuckles Who Dares Wins

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    Morning, you types. Absolutely corking evening card at Sandown Park later on and I think I’m safe in saying it will be the best ‘evening fare’ gee-gee wise all term.

    All 4 Group/Listed heats are fascinating and the 2 that I would recommend to the dear old regular readers are SIMENON (7.10) and EAGLE TOP (7.45).

    The former hails from the yard of some chap called Bill Mullins, never heard of him myself but apparently he’s had a winner or two in the NH sphere of late. I’m sure he’s no Mr Henderson though. Anyway, enough of all that. Simenon has proved himself a top notch stayer these past few seasons with successes in the Ascot Stakes and Queen Alexandra plus excellent placed efforts in The Gold Cup (twice), the Chester Cup (under a welter burden), Lonsdale Stakes and Melbourne Cup. I think that formline puts him ahead of today’s rivals and expect him to oblige. The latter burst onto the scene last summer with a stunning success in the old King Eddie The Seventh at the Royal meeting. Looked some animal that day as he easily brushed aside some quality opposition. Backed that up with a respectable 4th in the ‘King George’ over the same course and distance. I can’t see the step down to 10 furlongs as being a problem because this horse has the ability to both travel and quicken to devastating effect.

    Really like one of the morrow incidentally but neither he nor today’s pair are in the Time Test league of tips. Nudge, nudge, wink, wink, say no more...

    Good luck, troops.
     
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  20. Sir Barney Chuckles

    Sir Barney Chuckles Who Dares Wins

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    Templegate from ‘The Sun’ was on with the legend of the airwaves, ‘Big’ Alan Brazil, a few minutes before 7 o’clock this morn and he bigged up this Gang Warfare massive style. Would imagine that a few million of ‘Big’ Al’s listeners will be on this one as well!
     
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