The debate was a place to look for Premiership players. Yes lets take a closer look at this lot. The majority you mention had already excelled at a HIGHER level before playing Premiership and so had PROVED themselves at a higher level, Hoolahan, Snodgrass, Johnson, Martin, Holt, Lambert. The prime argument at the time as they were playing against MONKEYS week in and week out and so I questioned the gamble in quality and ability to assess them as being good enough. Chamberlain was 17 and so does not count. Lowton had also played abroad Nick Powell also very young Ahley Westwood is a goalkeeper Karl Jenkinson also very young None of the players mentioned had played for a few years at that level, they were products of youth football, not League One football.
He did handle the situation right you are correct however I disagree..Keane was bigger than Ireland lol
My error, two pages open at the same time. So that's two, Pilkington AND Westwood. Out of how many playing at the top?
you're not very good at this are you carrabuh! read my post again. i clearly stated that those players had played in league one in recent seasons. not one of those players is wrong. the only one who was wrong was mcauley who is amended on my original post. you claim league one is full of monkeys - there's a whole host of players who have played in league one in the last three or so years yet have all gone on to become either regular premier league players or are on the fringe of top clubs and representing england at international levels. you can't suddenly change the goal posts because it doesn't suit your argument!
Oh don't get me wrong, he was a fabulous footballer who as you say could have graced any team in any league, I refer more to the fact he rated himself as an individual higher than the manager, and that can never be right regardless of who you are
I would stick my neck out to say there is more that has been successful coming from the 3rd tier than from scotland to the premership.
And if you read my post, they are products of Youth football, not League One football. Which they were. I'm not changing the goalposts Pyjamas, if your 16/17 and standing out then you can envisage a development against better opposition. Not quite so much when your 22/3/4. I don't suppose there are many purchased who had only played League One and were bought to go directly in the first team. Yet there are plenty purchased from abroad or Championship who are.
having said that, there's been a number of successes filter into the championship from scotland. the scottish league isn't great but if you take celtic out of it you'd end up with a mini championship. i probably won't include ryan stevenson as being a success
you're just talking absolute drivel again. you've not just moved the goal posts, you've completely reshaped them now! this is a pointless debate because you don't know what you're talking about with regards this level of football. i think in all honesty its time i put you on the 'ignore list' because you very rarely say anything of interest to me anymore. shame.
How is it drivel when it is plainly true. You know as well as I do the arguments were not only about the quality of purchase down there but also the ability to asess. You then reel off 10 players of which none have any relevance to the argument because they's played at a higher level before playing in the top Division. The rest are youth products. You are the one talking drivel, name some genuine League One players who were actually genuine League One players before signing for first team action. Not ****ing youth players or proven Championship ones.
The Gareth Bale Debate A Theatrical Play The events and characters in this play are entirely fictional, any similarities with real life events and/or characters are coincidental. ____________________________________________ DRAMATIS PERSONAE AnchormanWearsGrantHoltPyjamas: a free talking football supporter with an unfortunate habit of "ITK-dropping"*, but otherwise well-meaning, lively and positive. *similar to name-dropping, but involves not actually revealing the knowledge Carrabuff: an outspoken advocate of tiki-taka with an unfortunate habit of refusing to read other people's postings, but otherwise brings interesting and alternative points of view which rarely fail to provoke [debate] Canary Dan: a cheerful football fan and forum administrator with an unfortunate habit of getting involved in debates at precisely the wrong moment, but otherwise a loveable and grandfather figure with a faint aroma of peat. ______________________________________________ ACT ONE SCENE ONE The Norvic City Open Forum Canary Dan: So, first debate, what do people think of Gareth Bale? AnchormanWearsGrantHoltPyjamas: I think he's a brilliant player. However, a bid of £80m really shouldn't be sniffed at. Incidentally, I know something interesting about him, but I can't tell you about it. Carrabuff: He's crap. Canary Dan: I'm sorry, what? Carrabuff: I think he's crap. Utter crap. AnchormanWearsGrantHoltPyjamas: Carrabuff, you must be high. He's averaging nearly a goal a match for HotSpurtz, he's rated in the top five players in the world. Carrabuff: But he's crap. AnchormanWearsGrantHoltPyjamas: What do you mean crap? He's young, yet capable of winning matches single-handedly. There's a reason why such a massive club as Royal Matrix have put in this bid. You can't possibly have seen him play. How on earth can you justify the statement that he's crap? Carrabuff: I honestly have seen him play. He's crap. AnchormanWearsGrantHoltPyjamas: Have you any idea what crap means? It's basically the polar opposite of Bale: "Noun vulgar. Something that is of extremely poor quality." Incidentally, I know something interesting about the guy who wrote the dictionary, but I can't tell you about it. Carrabuff: Yawn. Your post is too long to read. I find you using definitions incredibly tedious and I can't be bothered with it. I'm not constrained by using words in the way that every other English speaking person in the entire world uses them. Canary Dan: Lets keep it calm chaps. I'm tending towards Anchorman's position, but obviously I'm entirely impartial. No arguing while I get myself a drink of whi... Tea. A drink of tea. Carrabuff and AnchormanWearsGrantHoltPyjamas: Feck of Dan Canary Dan: Will do! AnchormanWearsGrantHoltPyjamas: Look Carrabuff, check out this video - www.footytube.eng/balezawsummoves You'll see you're wrong. He's clearly not crap, virtually every part of his game is brilliant. For example, his movement is exceptional. Carrabuff: I'm not wrong. I didn't say his movement wasn't exceptional. I've maintained all along that he's a very good player. AnchormanWearsGrantHoltPyjamas: You said he was crap?! Carrabuff: He is. Creative Rapid Athletic and Powerful. CRAP. Crap. My definition.
how do i give rep cos that post deserves it BIG TIME! brilliant rob although i'm pretty sure this conversation has genuinely taken place at some time...
