The Official Suarez "our ****" Thread (closing this thread at noon so get commenting)

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He isn't Mentally Ill therefore doesn't require psychiatric help

.... he just lacks control over his own behaviour/impulses ..... so a muzzle would work

yes... clearly.... need education on mental health on here... difference between a twat and a psychotic individual or whatever

force him to get braces to pull those weapons in line and force use of gum sheilds is a must
 
Shame on all these posters for picking on Suarez. They wouldn't do it to his twin brother, shown below! . . . Someone confided in me that their appearance is uncannily similar!

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Can't see it, myself. <whistle>

i can tell the difference this guy has a front tooth missing, suarez doesnt
 
He isn't Mentally Ill therefore doesn't require psychiatric help

.... he just lacks control over his own behaviour/impulses ..... so a muzzle would work

It was premeditated minxy, the muzzle can be removed, you'd need the whole Hannibal Lecter restraint trolley n'all <laugh>
 
Sisu, astro and donga. This applies only to you <ok>

Can't speak for the others, but can you point me to where I have defended Suarez's actions? I agree with Tobes and others that he's in for a tidal wave of ****, and he has it coming. However, as I've pointed out consistently, and will keep doing so again, for all the opportunistic self-righteous divs whose main concern is **** all to do with 'the game of football' or 'Shankly turning in his grave', unless FIFA retrospectively re-writes its own codes and punishments to sate these self-serving, faux outrages, the bans and sanctions (maximum 24 month, 12 games?) applies to international football. There is no precedent for on-field infringements to be dealt with otherwise, though had Suarez punched a ref or raped a lino (and don't ****ing rule it out) I'm sure that FIFA would have the powers for a blanket ban.

Otherwise, it's a physical assault on another player in the field of play, and should FIFA try to expand that to other perspectives in order to sate the bloodlust of the English media and pious football fans they'd face undoubted legal action from the player and his national administration. Luis is not the victim in this incident, but retrospectively changing the rules and punishments to suit sports' columnists from the Mail and the Mirror will make him so.

Besides which, you all get your wishes (if that's really what they are) in that Liverpool will almost certainly have to have to sell, under-priced, sooner or later as the FA will be watching and waiting for the next indiscretion like old ladies knitting around the tumbrils at the guillotine. And sure as ****, Luis will do something again, and the next one - if in England - will be a long/lifetime ban. What you won't get is the lifetime ban and Liverpool lose all their money and you'll never have to face Suarez again that you want and are dressing-up in some pious, self-serving morally outraged shock.
 
As for the mental stuff, Suarez frustration manifests it's self in bites, others suffer the exact same thing but use other means to lash out. The underlying problem a problem for a few footballers.

Ho many times has a player either kicked someone out of frustration or out of a need for payback or in at least one case tried to put someone's face in with a flying elbow.

If Luis just kicked or elbowed someone like everyone else does we would not be having this conversation.
 
To the best of my knowledge "premeditated" means calculated and planned before the event.
I hardly think Suarez had "Bite an opponent today" on a post-it note on his fridge.
I think it's a rush of blood to the head.
Not excusable, but different.
 
To the best of my knowledge "premeditated" means calculated and planned before the event.
I hardly think Suarez had "Bite an opponent today" on a post-it note on his fridge.
I think it's a rush of blood to the head.
Not excusable, but different.

Premeditated can mean seconds before, not hours Saint, if you think I am going to bite him and do it, thats premeditated.

it looked like he indeed chose to do it. It was not out of reaction.

Suarez is obviously less in control of his faculties on the pitch cos I haven't heard anything about him being like this off the field.

Letting his competitiveness get the better of him imo.

He'll pay the price now, deservedly so.
 
Biting someone is horrible. Also he actually tries afterwards, to make up a pathetic story about it being an accident.

He's a biter and a bare faced liar. I can't see how he can play in the PL next season, Liverpool would be better off getting rid and would gain a huge amount of respect by doing so.
 
Biting someone is horrible. Also he actually tries afterwards, to make up a pathetic story about it being an accident.

He's a biter and a bare faced liar. I can't see how he can play in the PL next season, Liverpool would be better off getting rid and would gain a huge amount of respect by doing so.

Just as well you don't run our club so. We have people running it that can see things happening.
 
Premeditated can mean seconds before, not hours Saint, if you think I am going to bite him and do it, thats premeditated.

it looked like he indeed chose to do it. It was not out of reaction.

Suarez is obviously less in control of his faculties on the pitch cos I haven't heard anything about him being like this off the field.

Letting his competitiveness get the better of him imo.

He'll pay the price now, deservedly so.

I would interpret the word differently, in the same way as it's applied to criminal acts.

Premeditated murder is the crime of wrongfully and intentionally causing the death of another human being (also known as murder) after rationally considering the timing or method of doing so, in order to either increase the likelihood of success, or to evade detection or apprehension.

That was from Wiki, so may contain lies, but still I see the word as meaning something that is planned beforehand with a clear agenda.
Suarez' action was obviously deliberate, but more spontaneous than premeditated in my opinion.
However, I'll let it go before I get accused of defending him :)
 
Premeditated can mean seconds before, not hours Saint, if you think I am going to bite him and do it, thats premeditated.

it looked like he indeed chose to do it. It was not out of reaction.

Suarez is obviously less in control of his faculties on the pitch cos I haven't heard anything about him being like this off the field.

Letting his competitiveness get the better of him imo.

He'll pay the price now, deservedly so.

Absolutely. If my lab did that I'd say the ****er did it on purpose and put him down. If he was suddenly jumped from behind and bit out to defend himself, that's different. As I said last night, the guy is ****ing mental, and I said it after the Ivanovic bite and that he'd do it again too. I love the punk, and the way he sticks two-fingers up unapollagetically at the English media, but he can't control himself. He won't but someone, punch someone or end someone's career with a deliberate hack at the knee, but he will do something disgusting like the bite again. He just can't help himself.

He's been a marked man by the FA and the English press for the last two years, now he's more-or-less an outlaw. They're waiting and he's brought it on himself.
 
I would interpret the word differently, in the same way as it's applied to criminal acts.



That was from Wiki, so may contain lies, but still I see the word as meaning something that is planned beforehand with a clear agenda.
Suarez' action was obviously deliberate, but more spontaneous than premeditated in my opinion.
However, I'll let it go before I get accused of defending him :)

"Premeditated murder" is quite appropriate here too <whistle>
 
Biting someone is horrible. Also he actually tries afterwards, to make up a pathetic story about it being an accident.

He's a biter and a bare faced liar. I can't see how he can play in the PL next season, Liverpool would be better off getting rid and would gain a huge amount of respect by doing so.

see where you are coming from but is an easy thing to say when not your player.

besides the only loser in this will end up being our club, and why should we pay for something he done on int duty? whether its get rid for reputation, not a high value transfer etc, its us who lose no one else.

plenty of footballers have been ****s in the past, but it always seems to be the club that gets penalized not the player for being a twat, they just move on and still get their wages don't they.
 
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Can't speak for the others, but can you point me to where I have defended Suarez's actions? I agree with Tobes and others that he's in for a tidal wave of ****, and he has it coming. However, as I've pointed out consistently, and will keep doing so again, for all the opportunistic self-righteous divs whose main concern is **** all to do with 'the game of football' or 'Shankly turning in his grave', unless FIFA retrospectively re-writes its own codes and punishments to sate these self-serving, faux outrages, the bans and sanctions (maximum 24 month, 12 games?) applies to international football. There is no precedent for on-field infringements to be dealt with otherwise, though had Suarez punched a ref or raped a lino (and don't ****ing rule it out) I'm sure that FIFA would have the powers for a blanket ban.

Otherwise, it's a physical assault on another player in the field of play, and should FIFA try to expand that to other perspectives in order to sate the bloodlust of the English media and pious football fans they'd face undoubted legal action from the player and his national administration. Luis is not the victim in this incident, but retrospectively changing the rules and punishments to suit sports' columnists from the Mail and the Mirror will make him so.

Besides which, you all get your wishes (if that's really what they are) in that Liverpool will almost certainly have to have to sell, under-priced, sooner or later as the FA will be watching and waiting for the next indiscretion like old ladies knitting around the tumbrils at the guillotine. And sure as ****, Luis will do something again, and the next one - if in England - will be a long/lifetime ban. What you won't get is the lifetime ban and Liverpool lose all their money and you'll never have to face Suarez again that you want now for something that happened in an international game, and are dressing-up in some pious, self-serving morally outraged shock.

Oops, edit bad.
 
As for the mental stuff, Suarez frustration manifests it's self in bites, others suffer the exact same thing but use other means to lash out. The underlying problem a problem for a few footballers.

Ho many times has a player either kicked someone out of frustration or out of a need for payback or in at least one case tried to put someone's face in with a flying elbow.

If Luis just kicked or elbowed someone like everyone else does we would not be having this conversation.

There is something so much more unsavoury about a man that bites another man and I feel we all recognise that. It is the same with the Tyson Boxing comparison, we have boxers that will hit low, after the bell etc etc but what Tyson did took it to a new level and quite rightly received complete condemnation within the sport, as should Suarez.

I think we can say he suffers some kind of mental issue as he is totally unable to control himself in certain moments and this manifests through him biting people, which is clearly not normal. He needs take himself out of the high intensity situations which cause this as I do not believe he does this in the street or over the dinner table. This means that he will need give up football, however talented, because otherwise having done this 3 times in a relatively short time and demonstrating he has no self control in the issue the authorities and opposing players will have no choice to accept that Luis is going to bite people when he gets in a place, because that's what he does. They cannot ask him to restrain himself like you could a dirty kicker as the kicker is far more premedative and part of their intended game, Suarez however simply has no control over this, he loses it and so any good psychiatrist would advise him to avoid the situations when his urge to bite other people arises. He has had two attempts at the self restraint route and it clearly doesn't work. If self restraint was ever going to be possible it would surely be when in front of milions upon millions of viewers in the World Cup. He simply has no control over biting other human beings when in a place.

There may well be another but I have never heard of a player biting people before as Suarez does and there is simply no place for it. How many time must it happen before someone says "look pal this games really not for you is it" ?
 
There is something so much more unsavoury about a man that bites another man and I feel we all recognise that. It is the same with the Tyson Boxing comparison, we have boxers that will hit low, after the bell etc etc but what Tyson did took it to a new level and quite rightly received complete condemnation within the sport, as should Suarez.

I think we can say he suffers some kind of mental issue as he is totally unable to control himself in certain moments and this manifests through him biting people, which is clearly not normal. He needs take himself out of the high intensity situations which cause this as I do not believe he does this in the street or over the dinner table. This means that he will need give up football, however talented, because otherwise having done this 3 times in a relatively short time and demonstrating he has no self control in the issue the authorities and opposing players will have no choice to accept that Luis is going to bite people when he gets in a place, because that's what he does. They cannot ask him to restrain himself like you could a dirty kicker as the kicker is far more premedative and part of their intended game, Suarez however simply has no control over this, he loses it and so any good psychiatrist would advise him to avoid the situations when his urge to bite other people arises. He has had two attempts at the self restraint route and it clearly doesn't work.
This is a sensible post, but I can't help laughing at the idea of him taking a chunk out of someone over the dinner table.
 
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