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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%

  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%
  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
easthertsr said:
If large numbers of foreign workers leave then of course there's more job opportunities for British workers, but that only applies if the economy is in good shape. This is not the most difficult thing to understand, if the economic outlook is poor it doesn't help anyone. Still trust in Boris, probably the politician that has told the most lies in political history, we'll be fine! Well the rich will be OK, and we will have control over our borders! Hooray!
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I give up........you can’t even answer a simple question.....
 
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kiwiqpr said:
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How about recognising that the huge majority of Muslims just try to live their lives like me and you. The poor families that suffered in the atrocity in New Zealand had never hurt anyone. Spouting this ridiculous bile doesn't help anybody. Surely we are all better than that. Hang your head in shame,the world will never get better unless we come together and face up to the hatred that tears us apart.
 
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That’s probably the best post you or your alter ego have come up with so far :).
Why do people have to do that ?

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Getting feisty on here tonight. I missed the great debate on purpose and have been listening to music during the news. Who won, dumb or dumber?

Apparently people of Chinese origin earn more than the rest of us. I sense a pogrom coming on in Hartlepool.
 
Staines R's said:
Simple answer....free movement of foreign workers ends, which means the bosses in this country cannot exploit those foreign workers and pay **** wages to them, thus leading the worker in Darlington (to quote your example) to be paid a fair wage as the wage structure isn’t being brought down.
This also has the advantage to the foreign workers country of origin, as their work force isn’t decimated by people leaving.

Of course if you are a banker in Islington there is no advantage in leaving whatsoever.

Is that simple enough an answer ?
Sorry if not but I’ve only had 2 hours sleep after my night shift .
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If you drop the free movement of the talent who’s going to replace them ? The English certainly haven’t got the skill set not in anyway the numbers required
 
So Labour now want a referendum on a 'Tory #Brexit', and would campaign for Remain, but if they win a General Election they'd negotiate a 'Labour Brexit', which would also go to a referendum, in which they would campaign for... Remain, against their own deal. Is that right?
 
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Staines R's said:
So you are saying I’m wrong in my assumption that an influx of foreign workers, willing to work for a lesser wage, brings down the wage structure for local workers ??
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One of my brothers-in-law is a plasterer, about 15 years ago he was earning up to £400 a day working as a sub-contractor on building projects for some of the companies involved in PFI contracts, in the space of 18 months that daily rate was halved by a massive infux of East European workers as in may other building trades. Ultimately he had to sell his house and move into rented accommodation when the banking crash impacted the trade as well.

I spent 30 years working in Local Authority Facilities Management, the strange thing was despite these massive reductions in labour costs, the like-for-like cost of these projects actually rose massively in the time from their inception in the late 90s to the time they ultimately caused my redundancy in 2012. Companies such as Balfour Beatty were being awarded packages of new build contracts in dozens rather than individually with all the lucrative Facilities Management contracts written in as well yet many, such as Carillion, got greedy and hit the buffers. The number of other beneficiaries of such schemes is mind-boggling and that is before a brick is even laid...
 
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