Barton on the future

He now has 2 court cases pending. Both for assault. 1 on an opposing manager and another on a female.

Ryan Giggs is still the Wales manager but has been suspended for assault charges. Yet the club have known about this since the 2nd of June and decided not to act and has only made a statement today because the press found out and the club has faced pressure since. We are truly a joke of a club. You all have seen his history of violence. Did any of you expect him to stay squeaky clean while at our club? It was a stupid appointment and the club deserves to take any bad press as a result. Just another reason for me to fall further out of love with Rovers. It's sad but I actually been agreeing with fans of other clubs on twitter who are mocking our club about this. I am a Wael supporter but this decision to appoint him was a massive massive mistake on his part and brings into question decision making. The whole club is a shambles.

 

Apparently the woman in question is his wife. She has taken to social media and denied everything.

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So here is the updated list of issues involving our manager Joey Barton...

December 2004
At a fancy dress Christmas party for Manchester City players, Barton, then 22, stubbed out a lit cigar in the eye of youth team player Jamie Tandy, causing damage to his eyelids. Barton and Tandy then became involved in a brawl that other players had to break up. Barton was fined £60,000 by City but wasn't sacked by the club.

May 2005
Barton breaks the leg of a 35-year-old pedestrian while driving his car through Liverpool city centre at 2am.

June 2005
Barton was sent home from City's pre-season tour of Thailand after assaulting a 15-year-old Everton supporter who had provoked him by shouting abuse and kicking his shin. Barton had to be restrained from continuing his attack on the boy by team-mate Richard Dunne. He was fined £120,000 and underwent anger management therapy.

March 2007
Barton is arrested on suspicion of assault and criminal damage following an alleged argument with a taxi driver in Liverpool. He was alleged to have ripped out the cabbie's radio because he would not wait at a MacDonald's drive-through while Barton got food. He was later found not guilty of vandalising the taxi because his cousin Joshua Wilson, who was in the car with him, admitting causing the damage.

May 2007
Barton is involved in a training ground incident with City team-mate Ousmane Dabo. Dabo said he had been hit several times, was left unconscious and required hospital for head injuries, including a suspected detached retina. Barton admitted the assault and in July 2008 was given a four-month suspended jail sentence. After further investigations, in November 2008, he was handed a six-match ban, with a further six suspended, after admitting an FA violent conduct charge relating to this incident with Dabo. He was also fined £25,000.

December 2007
Having sat out Newcastle's Boxing Day game through injury, Barton goes drinking in Liverpool city centre afterwards. At 5.30am, he gets into an argument in a McDonald's and CCTV footage shows Barton punching a man 20 times, knocking him out, before attacking a teenager and breaking some of his teeth. Barton spends New Year behind bars.

May 2008
Barton is sentenced to six months in jail after admitting assault and affray. He serves 74 days of his prison term at Strangeways in Manchester.

November 2008
After serving his jail term and the six-month ban for the Dabo incident, Barton is accused of making a racist remark to Aston Villa striker Gabriel Agbonlahor. However, this is never proven.

May 2009
Barton is sent off in his first game back from a long-term injury for a reckless tackle on Liverpool's Xabi Alonso. Barton receives a three-match ban for the red card but is then suspended indefinitely by Newcastle. That stemmed from a dressing room argument with manager Alan Shearer and his assistant Iain Dowie following the game.

November 2010
Barton stayed at Newcastle following the departure if Shearer and in a match against Blackburn Rovers, he punches Morten Gamst Pedersen in the chest. He admits an FA charge of violent conduct and was banned for three games.

August 2011
Barton leaves Newcastle and joins Queens Park Rangers. In one of his first games for the club, Barton is involved in a physical confrontation with Wolves player Karl Henry.

January 2012
Is sent off for head-butting Norwich midfielder Bradley Johnson.

March 2012
Hits out at QPR fans who booed him for a poor performance in a 3-2 win over Liverpool.

May 2012
Barton is sent off in QPR's final day match at Manchester City for elbowing Carlos Tevez in the face, kicking Sergio Aguero in the back of the knee and then attempting to head-butt Vincent Kompany. His former team-mate Micah Richards drags him off the field. QPR goes on to lose 3-2 and only avoided relegation thanks to Bolton only drawing. Barton said after the match he was trying to get one of the City players sent off with him. The FA subsequently ban Barton for 12 matches and fine him £75,000. QPR strip Barton of the captaincy and fine him six weeks' wages, around £500,000.

January 2013
Gets into a Twitter spat with former Liverpool and Germany midfielder Dietmar Hamann, calling him a 'maggot' and a 'dog' after Loic Remy decided to move to QPR and not Newcastle.

April 2013
While on loan at Marseille, Barton calls Paris Saint-Germain defender Thiago Silva an 'overweight ladyboy' on Twitter. Marseille had to apologise to their rivals PSG and Barton is handed a two-game suspended ban.

February 2015
Back at QPR, he is sent off for the ninth time in his career against Hull for taking a swing at Tom Huddlestone's groin following a foul by Darnell Furlong.

September 2016
Shortly after joining Rangers, Barton says newly-appointed Celtic manager Brendan Rodgers is suffering a 'mid-life crisis' during a radio interview. In the same month, he is sent away from the Rangers training ground following a training ground argument with Andy Halliday. He was subsequently suspended for three weeks and Rangers terminated his contract two months later.

April 2017
Barton, then a Burnley player, is banned from football for 18 months after admitting a FA charge in relation to betting. He was also fined £30,000 and warned about his future conduct after placing 1,260 bets on matches over a 10-year period. Barton admitted he was addicted to gambling but contests the punishment was excessive. In July 2017, the ban is reduced by five months on appeal but his playing career is over.

April 2019
Police launch an investigation after Barton, who was appointed Fleetwood manager in June 2018, allegedly assaults Barnsley manager Daniel Stendel in the tunnel after a match, leaving him with damaged teeth. In November, Barton pleaded not guilty to assault occasioning actual bodily harm. The trial date has been delayed until June 2021 by the Covid pandemic.

2020
Barton, still Fleetwood manager, was involved in a beach brawl during a stag party with video evidence showing him knocking down at least 2 individuals.

June 2021
Barton charged with assault by beating. Victim apparently his wife.

There is probably a lot more than this and don't forget he has been sent off twice as manager against us alone!

Ladies and Gents.... this is the manager that Wael decided was the right guy to represent our club.

 

No one can or will convince me that Barton can or will change.

 

Your manager punches women, your fans punch horses, what an embarrassment to the name of Bristol your team are....

 

I grant you that Barton is a thug, but you can shove the rest of it up your arse you sad little ****head twat.

Your club and its Neanderthal supporters have done more than their fair share of dragging Bristol’s name through the mud - so off you toddle back to whichever slime hole you inhabit ****wit.

 

If she’s the alleged victim and is not pressing charges then how come it’s going to court?

 

Gross misconduct would probably mean no pay off if they sack him properly.

 

Past performance is normally a very good predictor of future performance anyway. Some opinions from Gas Girls would probably seal his fate.

 

That’s because the police now have the power to instigate charges. So even if his wife says nothing and refuses to cooperate then they can and will pursue prosecution.

In response to @Supcon72 i can remember your delightful bunch of Neanderthals masquerading as football fans and being worse than anything that has ever gone on at the mem. Go fishing somewhere else you little twat.

 

A serious question - should he stay in charge of Bristol Rovers on a day to day basis?

There is "innocent until proven guilty", but all this is not helping your club

Would it be a better bet to put him on gardening leave until it's sorted out?

What are your thoughts lads?

 

I was prepared to give him a chance as he did a reasonable job at Fleetwood. I realise he comes with considerable baggage but I thought he might be the one to give our underperforming squad the rocket up the backside they clearly needed.

Instead, he spent most of his time whining about the players and his predecessors and presided over even worse performances. We had a decent chance of beating the drop - instead we went down with a pathetic whimper with him at the helm.

Now he’s up in court for hitting a woman which is an uncrossable line in my book so as far as I’m concerned he can **** right off away from our club. When he’s ****ed off, he can **** off again even further. I cannot abide bullies.

We need a grizzled old lower league campaigner in. We’ve got some decent players for this level so an experienced manager should be able to get some performances out of them.

 

Fan, not fans. Just a fan.

Say 1 of your fans was banned due to racism. That doesn't make you all racists does it

 

I was wrong. I didn't read it correct. She hasn't denied it happening. She just denies making the accusation that Barton has been violent towards her. Something has obviously happened because she ended it by saying it's a personal matter. You wouldn't say that if nothing actually happened at all.

But to answer your question... Caroline Flack allegedly had a domestic with her fella. Police and ambulance was called to the scene. Her fella didn't want to press charges but the police wanted to pursue the case. It was going through the courts before she took her own life. In domestic violence cases, police have the powers to act on behalf of the victim, even without the consent of the victim because often the victim is being forced to deny everything by the abuser etc etc. I am certainly not suggesting this is the case here with the Barton's. But the police has found it necessary to take this forward without the consent of the alleged victim.

 

smhbcfc How you doing buddy?

No, he shouldn't be in charge of the club. Yes innocent until proven guilty but if found guilty then the club had kept him in active service when was guilty all along and that would make the club look really bad even more. He should have been suspended until further notice - just like Ryan Giggs currently this.
Then, if he is found innocent then really there are 2 choices...
1, he returns with his name cleared, although I doubt many opposition fans will see it that way on a match day!
2, the club decides that Barton is a liability by dragging Rovers name through the mud as I am sure this will be a lengthy process and remove him permanently.
If he is found guilty then there should be an immediate dismissal.

This happened 7 weeks ago. There is no way the club would have just found out. They would have been sitting on this the whole time and decided to let him carry on spending on players, bringing in new staff and removing existing players. If he is found guilty then the club has itself to blame for not acting soon enough about this situation because allowing Barton to have complete control of the club in these last 7 weeks, it means we have to find a new manager who will have to use Barton's squad that he has assembled and using Barton's staff, all with less than 2 weeks before the new season starts.

But really the club should not have been in this position in the first place as they should not have hired someone with so much baggage. Everyone knows Barton is trouble.

 

I remember the discussion when his name was in the frame. Don't think anyone was that happy with it more on personal baggage than football ability. Thing is with any employee, you can't just throw them out if you and they have a contract. He would have to be found guilty formally for something to be dismissed. Otherwise you also know the money it could and probably would cost. It hasn't taken long though has it. Two cases pending already. The trouble is if nothing comes of either of them you just figure it is only a matter of time before case 3 crops up or some other problem. What your club doesn't need is a reason for supporters to boycott going now they can return. You want promotion not being bankrupt. It's one thing after another for you lot at the moment it seems and it takes any shine off being interested in the football stuff just when you should be getting a bit excited. I genuinely feel for you all.

 

Reading further “reports”

Barton was attending a gathering in Kew with his wife Georgia. Police were called after Barton allegedly punched her and kicked her in the head following an argument outside the property. She suffered a bloody nose.

By the sound of things the friends might have reported it or the police have decided they have enough evidence to proceed with a prosecution.

Whatever way you look at it he has now two trials set for the end of the year. First alleged assault trial November and second assault and battery in December. Whatever the outcome he has to be suspended due to the severity of the allegations. To not do so would be a catastrophic PR disaster. The club have to be seen to be doing the right thing. Suspend not sack and put Clint Hill in Caretaker charge.

 

According to a Sky sports account Mrs Barton called the police and asked for him to be removed from the premises

 

Allegations Domestic Violence on top of everything else should be enough to show Barton the door. An employer's burden of proof is nowhere near as high as a court of law, and the damage to Bristol Rovers reputation should be enough to show him the door. Otherwise he'll be tied up with court appearances in November and December, and based on past form something else will probably happen in the meantime anyway.

 

Surely this must question Wael's knowledge of football, didn't anyone say woo wael, Joey is trouble, don't go there?