An excellent relegation

Even though when he was sacked you were 11th and comfortably safe, and you ended up getting relegated shortly after? Think you need to look up the term "disaster", mate.

 

Utter ****ing ****e.

Enjoy Leeds Both deseve each other. And Cardiff.

But if Milwall come up. You can run and cry. As norm.

 

Not really. I used the term "footballing disaster" deliberately. At Newcastle the team he put out didn't play football as opposed to percentage hoofball. That for me, taking into account having watched the likes of Jinky Smith, Peter Beardsley, Chris Waddle, Gazza, Ginola etc, was a definite football disaster.

The subsequent relegation had little to do with getting rid of Fat Sam as opposed to one shocking management (not managerial) decision after another after he had gone. I mean, come on, Joe Kinnear.

Like it or lump it, it's true. I didn't want us to be relegated but with Tufty we would have been relegated anyway. In the miraculous situation if we hadn't we would just have been struggling again next season. With Rafa we have some hope, which under Ashley we haven't had for a long time, that we might even aim to win things and not just exist.

 

So, Newcastle are synonymous with good football are they?

3 years under Keegan/Robson man. That's all it was. Awful before and after.

 

Rafa Rafa. Blah blah ****ing blah

The team is ****e... Fact

Rafa took them down.

Suck on it.

FTM.

 

It would be funny as **** if he had a disastrous start in the Championship..I dare bet that the Rafa out bed sheets would be out by Christmas..

 

As much as they will deny it. You are correct.

 

No denying they were much improved since Rafa came in, but I'd be quite concerned that he couldn't get them geed up for the Villa game, so how is he going to motivate them to play against the likes of Burton and Rotherham on a Tuesday night?

 

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/jonjo-shelvey-interrogated-customs-officials-8057674

. Unlucky.

 

There is no such thing as an excellent relegation. That being said, we feel like there is hope (albeit delayed) with getting Rafa on board. Just got to see what happens. I've not been this optimistic in well over a decade.

 

You never gave him time to get things fully working his way. He was also gaining you more than one point, per game. So you weren't going down with him.

Didn't he also give you Joey Barton?

 

People saying they'd rather be in the championship than the premier league, regardless of personnel, are ****ing idiots and their team deserves to rot down there.

 

Disco shoots from the hip with the truth.

 

Yes and no. Obviously, I'd rather have Rafa in the PL than anywhere else. There is a longer term plan in mind though. McLaren in the PL, for example, would continue the same turgid crap whereby last day survival would be seen as a success. Sure, we have short term pain now BUT the hope (and I stress hope) is that the cycle of ****ness will be eliminated under a proper manager.

 

I'd rather McLaren in the PL than God as manager in the championship with Jesus as club captain.

There's nothing excellent about relegation. It's a ridiculous statement.

 

I would rather be in the Championship with Fergie as our manager than be in the Premier League under Kenny Dalglish, absolutely no two ways about it.

Whether you think that's daft or not, that slimy ****ing rat would make me sick if he was our manager.

 

11 August 2007 Bolton Wanderers 1 – 3 Newcastle United
18 August 2007 Newcastle United 0 – 0 Aston Villa
26 August 2007 Middlesbrough 2 – 2 Newcastle United
1 September 2007 Newcastle United 1 – 0 Wigan Athletic
17 September 2007 Derby County 1 – 0 Newcastle United
23 September 2007 Newcastle United 3 – 1 West Ham United
29 September 2007 Manchester City 3 – 1 Newcastle United
7 October 2007 Newcastle United 3 – 2 Everton
22 October 2007 Newcastle United 3 – 1 Tottenham Hotspur
27 October 2007 Reading 2 – 1 Newcastle United
3 November 2007 Newcastle United 1 – 4 Portsmouth
10 November 2007 Sunderland 1 – 1 Newcastle United
24 November 2007 Newcastle United 0 – 3 Liverpool
1 December 2007 Blackburn Rovers 3 – 1 Newcastle United
5 December 2007 Newcastle United 1 – 1 Arsenal
8 December 2007 Newcastle United 2 – 1 Birmingham City
15 December 2007 Fulham 0 – 1 Newcastle United
23 December 2007 Newcastle United 2 – 2 Derby County
26 December 2007 Wigan Athletic 1 – 0 Newcastle United
29 December 2007 Chelsea 2 – 1 Newcastle United
2 January 2008 Newcastle United 0 – 2 Manchester City

Manager Sam Allardyce signed several players, including David Rozehnal, Caçapa, Habib Beye, Alan Smith, Joey Barton and Mark Viduka. The season started brightly for Newcastle, with two wins and two draws from their first five games, but they then became the first (and only) side to lose to Derby County that season. Newcastle won only five out of their next 25 Premier League games and could only draw with Derby in the reverse fixture. They also made a third round exit to Arsenal in the League Cup, but made a FA Cup third round draw with Championship club Stoke City. The game against Stoke, however, proved to be Allardyce's last in charge of Newcastle; three days later he was sacked by owner Mike Ashley after pressure from the fans, who were unimpressed with his exclusion of fan favourites from the starting line-up and poor results, despite Allardyce only having been there eight months.

League position on season 12th.


Above is info from Wiki. We didn't get relegated due to Fat Sam being sacked. We finished that season 12th. It was the next season we were relegated being the season that Ashley sacked Keegan at the start and followed up with one bad decision followed by a bad appointment etc.

It's a pure fallacy to link Fat Sam being sacked to our relegation as there were so many bad decisions after his sacking which lie closer to the truth as to why we went down. You don't not sack a bad manager just because the next one might be worse. And yes I count Fat Sam as a bad manager because of the painful football that was being played which, at that time, followed in style the football Bolton had been playing.

As highlights note the Derby games which were the season that Derby were shockingly poor.

 

You're missing the point. It's all about the long term strategy. Of course, I'd rather do all this in the premiership however we wouldn't have gone for Rafa if there was no chance of going down. McLaren would have kept us lower mid table without the hope of maybe seeing something better.

Maybe scraping by is good enough for Sunderland. I'd hope for more with Newcastle whether hat is crazy or not. Rafa guarantees nothing but he is a better bet for the LONG TERM than any other manager under the Ashley regime.

 

Spoken like someone who hasn't seen too many relegations!

I'd have Jozy Altidore as our forwards coach in the PL over Ibra, messi and ronaldo in the championship.

 

You can have a long term strategy in the premier league too. Championship clubs don't have a monopoly on it.