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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Chazz Rheinhold, Jun 21, 2016.

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How will you be voting?

  1. Remain

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    46.1%
  2. Leave

    104 vote(s)
    53.9%
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  1. Stockholm Tiger

    Stockholm Tiger Well-Known Member

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    As a British Ex-Pat a leave vote would be a pain in the arse for me personally and would involve all sorts of paperwork. However, as I have a Swedish wife and daughter and pay the top 61% tax bracket I very much doubt they'd be putting me back on a boat to Hull.

    As I don't intend to move back to the UK at any point I've decided not to vote, even though I could as I've not been out of the country for 15 years. I and other ex-pats I know have been targeted by the stay campaign with tales of horror and zombie apocalypse.

    If I was to vote I'd probably vote to leave even though I do feel very much a European even if that is second to being British.

    I think the European Union was a wonderful idea with the potential to deliver a lot of value to its citizens but I feel the current framework of ever closer union doesn't work for such a diverse set of economies. It's a bit like collectivism in that it's a good idea on paper but once the bureaucracy and personal agenda of the various politicians takes hold it goes off the rails. (I'm not suggesting the EU is communist )

    The expansion to include the eastern states has IMHO made the system even more ponderous and able to deliver less values to EU citizens as a whole. Ironically the expansion was driven by the UK to dilute the hegemony of France/Germany.

    For me it would be a reluctant goodbye.
     
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    Always happy to learn things Mr Cave.

    Thanks for that info .
     
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  3. The Omega Man

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    You need to research the subject. All EU Laws are legally binding in every EU country, but the majority of these do not affect the UK.

    This may help.

    https://fullfact.org/europe/uk-law-what-proportion-influenced-eu/
     
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  4. Amin Yapusi

    Amin Yapusi Well-Known Member

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    Why? We conquered the ****s.

    Does each and every state in the US get a vote to leave whenever anything they don't like gets passed?
     
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  5. FILEYseadog

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    In or out lammy man ?

    Or have i missed your choice .

    Great thread this....i get to learn stuff i didnt know..

    One important thing to me is the EU
    Countries allow dogs to travel between eu countries with out 3 months quarantine.

    If we leave the eu will we go back to the 3 month quarantine rule

    Quite important to me as i help a romanian lady who sends unwanted dogs to the uk
    Which is alot easier at the moment because of the eu rule.
     
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  6. Stockholm Tiger

    Stockholm Tiger Well-Known Member

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    There's no reason why the UK government would HAVE to reinstate the 3 month quarantine. The UK government could CHOOSE their own rules whether dog passport or quarantine. Those rules are to stop rabies getting into the UK not out.
     
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    I did wonder if people would read my post and get to the end wondering if I was advocating in or out. <laugh>

    I think the EU has many failings, so many that I'm inclined to vote leave (in fact, I was planning to a week or so ago), but I I suspect leaving will not solve most of the problems that most think it would and there's a reasonable chance that we'd end up in a worse place, so it's likely I'll now vote to remain.

    Pet passports do not just apply in the EU, you can bring animals into the UK from many places without quarantine, as long as they're chipped and you have the right paperwork (the same as applies in the EU).
     
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    Which ones & in what way were they protected?
     
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  9. Chilton's Hundreds

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    It's probably too late now but we should have had a poll on this site and then we could all have made a few bob/euros delete as necessary
     
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    My dog from romania just spent 2 days in kennels ... She was chipped and had a health certificate and a Romanian/ EU passport

    Glad to hear things shouldnt change.
     
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  12. Chilton's Hundreds

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    :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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    Stop being a twat. Sorry, a condescending twat.
     
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    That's a nice Petrescu story.
     
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    A random bloke, presumably a rather wealthy one, has paid for a full page add in today's Metro...

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    The last paragraph pretty much echos the point I made...

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  18. Chilton's Hundreds

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    0.5% may not sound much but if it continues for 10 years then that would add 3.3m (5%) to the population.

    Unless there's massive investment in housing, schools, NHS, transport - that's well past breaking point.
     
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    Very interesting and very reflective of the nation as far as I have seen.
     
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    In, in, in. Can't stand the thought of clown Johnson and **** Farage thinking they've achieved something.

    Also I have a french wife...
     
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