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The 2 AWOL Players

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by E.T. Fairfax, Aug 21, 2018.

  1. E.T. Fairfax

    E.T. Fairfax Well-Known Member

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    If we cant get rid of Ndong & the other one before the loan window closes, would it be best if we sack them? Would we be able to?
     
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  2. Washysafc

    Washysafc Well-Known Member

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    Like any employer we can sack them for breach of contract, however we still have money to pay to their previous clubs, so we still loose out and they are then able to sign for another club and start earning. I actually think this is what the agents is hoping will happen.

    For me the question is not can we sack them but can we also sue them for damages as their actions have lost the club money as they are now unsalable as a direct result of their actions in the close season?
     
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  3. Sidthemackem

    Sidthemackem Newcastle United 0-1 Cambridge United
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    Leave them where they are: not being paid and stuck with us. If they want to go they should co-operate with the club, not flounce off like a pair of **** prima donnas...
     
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  4. E.T. Fairfax

    E.T. Fairfax Well-Known Member

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    But once the loan window shuts and they decide to step back onto the training pitch to start picking up their wages again would it then be too late to sack them? Would there be a point when we would lose the opportunity to? It would surely be best to sack them than to continue paying their wages, no matter how much we owe their previous clubs. Do we sack them the moment they come back or run the risk of paying wages to players who we will never see in a SAFC again (I hope)?
     
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  5. E.T. Fairfax

    E.T. Fairfax Well-Known Member

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    But do we sack them the moment they come back? I have no problem, so long as they stay away.
     
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  6. E.T. Fairfax

    E.T. Fairfax Well-Known Member

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    Good point, should be able to, but probably not for some ****ty reason.
     
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  7. Sidthemackem

    Sidthemackem Newcastle United 0-1 Cambridge United
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    No. We make them clean the bogs. Good money for a cleaner, mind...
     
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  8. E.T. Fairfax

    E.T. Fairfax Well-Known Member

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    Knowing those two they'll end up looking like this

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  9. E.T. Fairfax

    E.T. Fairfax Well-Known Member

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    They've been gone for coming up to 2 months now. We must have saved up to 400K already? As long as they stay away they can pay for the money we owe to their previous clubs themselves.
     
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  10. Smiffy

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    I remember Chelsea sacking Mutu for drug use then suing him for several million. They won that case.

    I'm no lawyer but I would guess that we have a chance as if we simply allow them to run down their contracts, even if we aren't having to pay their wages in the meantime, we will still lose out on a transfer fee. We should be able to pursue them for that financial loss either after sacking them or after allowing their contracts to expire.

    I trust the current owners to at least be exploring this possibility.
     
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    spirit of 73 Well-Known Member

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    Does my memory fail or is the sale of dong not part of the debt clearing deal with short?
     
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  12. Burly Hurley

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    How similar are their cases to Rodwell's?

    We couldn't do anything about him and wasn't he a case of him turning up to train but quite simply refusing to play? Our hands were tied with him.

    These guys are not refusing to play are they? They're just doing what Courtois did at Chelsea, what many players do before the window closes, as instructed by their agents.
     
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    It is we only keep anything over the £8m fee which had been agreed with Watford if they kept him.
     
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  14. smithy in nl

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    Yeah they refused to play they have refused to even turn up never mind play or train.

    Pond life.
     
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    Burly Hurley Well-Known Member

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    I wasn't aware of that Smithy.

    I thought they were off training with other clubs abroad. Hadn't really given them any thought.

    Like virtually all ex-players, once they're no longer with us, almost like these 2, they're dead to me.
     
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    Disgrace mate even worse then Rodwell if that’s even possible.
     
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  17. E.T. Fairfax

    E.T. Fairfax Well-Known Member

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    If they turn up and we start paying their wages again, they certainly wont be dead to me.
     
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  18. Burly Hurley

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    I don't know mate, that's really REALLY pushing it! <laugh>
     
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  19. Burly Hurley

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    We must be paying them something now though surely?
     
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  20. E.T. Fairfax

    E.T. Fairfax Well-Known Member

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    As far as I know at the beginning of July they just decided not to turn up for training, claiming that they are never gonna play for us anymore, meaning we are fining them constantly until they turn up. I might be wrong like.
     
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