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Report: Luton Town 3-0 Bristol City

Discussion in 'Bristol City' started by wizered, Oct 19, 2019.

  1. Captain Jack Sparrow

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    <ok> That's good. I wasn't sure if you thought I was having a dig. It's not really a subject where any side can try to gain any advantage.

    Easier for you for home games but for us where most of our ground is standing it would be more difficult. However in those circumstances or when we are away, like you say where its a free for all, you would hope fans around those who are making racist comments would report them or challenge them. I certainly would.
     
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    Wow that brought back a memory! I remember when I was at Luton, their fans were singing "you're Welsh and you know you are". And the response back to them from our fans were "you're Asian and you know you are". To some this is banter but to others this is racism. I think banter is less these days and instead there is more hatred behind it.
     
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    Anyway, its great that your club are seeking to find them and deal with them. I see this that the police have arrested 2 Yeovil fans this morning for their involvement in the racist incident at the weekend. I hope they throw the book at them.
     
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    Mmmm, difficult one this. If Luton fans were making chants about us being Welsh (which you could describe as being racist, and certainly inflammatory) and the response was chants of England, then that is banter at best and some may say racist at worst, how do you balance this? Racism is a 2-way street, e.g. Luton fans can't call English fans 'you dirty Welsh ba*****ds", or chants of that ilk, and not expect to get abuse back on the ethnicity of a very large % of that town.

    However, if there were anti-Asian chants aimed at individuals then that has to be investigated and stamped out as that is unacceptable.
     
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  5. Cliftonville

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    https://www.otib.co.uk/index.php?/topic/149319-small-town-in-asia/

    Versus Leicester.

    The question to be asked is why is it racism? Racism is intent. Unless people have the ability to see into minds intent is very very difficult to judge. Combine with context and ethic origins/race its ridiculously complex - Why is being called Welsh acceptable as the Welsh are a different ethnic origin (Celts) to the English? Either they are both racist or they both are not.
     
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    Leicester is definitely another place where I remember the England chant happening.
     
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    I think we all know what proper racism is:
    What happened in Bulgaria
    The Chelsea fans tirade at Raheem Sterling
    What happened at Haringay

    Now I don't know what was sung at Luton, but it's the job of all of us to stamp it out.
    When I last went to Luton the city fans sang "you are just a small town in Asia". My opinion is that there is no need to sing a song like that.
     
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    Every club that goes there sing it what the hell City are certainly not the first and certainly won’t be the last.
     
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    So despite the fact that the police are investigating, its made national headlines, both our owner and manager have condemned it you still don't believe there is a case to answer?
     
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    No i don't absolute pathetic went there the last time we played Luton and it was 10 times worse.

    Racists what are we turning into snowflakes it seems.
     
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    So because it was worse last time then it's fine now. Idiot!
     
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    Chanting Tommy Robinson, singing small town in asia, singing England? Is that the case?
     
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    Far worse to be called Welsh.
     
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    I think a case can be made that Lutons and many other teams habit of calling Bristol City Welsh comes from a similar place to Bristol City fans using small town in Asia to Luton and Leicester.

    Its nearly an annual event, it would be if certain teams were always in the same division. A supporting tradition for some going on for over a decade.

    Is it racist? Well no. Its often just silly v malevolent.
     
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    I agree that is the highest insult to an Englishman!! Why isn't anyone investigating this, it clearly incited racial hatred back at Luton fans<laugh><laugh> - I'm joking btw!!
     
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    Yes and why are these songs sang at Luton and Leicester and not other grounds?
     
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  17. Cliftonville

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    Because of regional differences and those differences are observed in chants altering v different opposition. Starting with just local teams Cardiff sheep. Rovers well Bristol City fans actualy named them the Gas due to what is situated outside of the ground, Swindon inbreds and roundabouts … And on this goes across the Country.

    And Bristol City are Welsh and cant read and drive tractors.
     
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  18. Loathsneyd

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    Rubbish it's to do with the race of the people surrounding these grounds and if anybody thinks any different they are deluded
     
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    Yes. A regional difference. Our regional differences are the proximity to Wales and the perception that Bristol is a giant farm.
     
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    This is a pathetic counter argument akin to two kids in the playground saying he started it
     
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