Off Topic SARS-CoV-2 Covid-19

I spoke too soon even the new provider not working today, looks as if it might have been an unnecessary waste of money.

I don't know whether you have experienced it but the BBC website does show i player in the options at the top of the home page it's missing, if it's working then it's there. Even if you try the Iplayer app it doesn't work.

 

Turning into a bit of a circus now. the 4000 bed Nightingale hospital turning away patients, they've only treated 41 so far. PPE sitting in companies stock here in the UK so we send 1 plane with a carrying capacity of 30 tons to Turkey to collect 84 tons, just heard that they unloaded 3 pallets, I hope they are big ones rather than standard euro pallet. Virus testing centers unused, increasing the capacity for testing nearer to the target of 100,000 a day but not doing anywhere near that. All in all bit of a mess.

 

Given prior to all of this, we were constantly told that there was a staffing crisis in the NHS, and this would get worse as we left the EU, and there is currently a high demand for hospital services, where are all the extra staff needed for the additional Nightingale Hospitals coming from?

 

Other wards around the country A&E especially, but nurses aren’t going to go to a place where you might die are they?! They’re there to save lives not give up their own.

 

How many thousands of ex NHS volunteered to return to work? plus all the final year medical students who were bumped up. The private hospitals that were commandeered or voluntarily offered their services. Then there is the question of all the departments closed down (cancer, IVF, heart, surgical to name a few) to free up staff.

 

I think care homes have handled this better than the government.

The one my missus works at and the one she used to work at both banned visitors long before any government restrictions were imposed.

 

Was it one of the lovely bouncing big booby ladies?

 

Mind your language eh bob!!!



they’re birds ffs

 

If my wife's experience is anything to go by, staff in other specialities will make up the bulk. Everyone up to consultant level in her department (genetics) has been redeployed to Covid-19-related work. The consultants (of which she is one) are keeping the department going at a minimum level while helping out in other over-run areas (my wife is doing weekend work at a mortuary to help the overwhelmed staff there). When you add this to the retired staff coming back (in their thousands, I'm led to believe) it makes up for the shortfall temporarily but the situation isn't tenable in the long term.

 

Same at the one my missus works at. No visitors allowed from the start

 

I've not been too critical of the govt so far throughout all this, unprecented, never since the war, and all that, but the longer it's gone on the feeling they haven't really got a grip is inescapable. Whether it's to do with Boris's absence, incompetence, or a bit of both I don't know but they do seem to be losing the plot.

 

From the BBC website

Vietnam is the standout success with only 268 cases and no deaths. The communist party leadership recognised the threat very early, declaring in late January the need to fight the virus like a war, and deploying propaganda reminiscent of the conflict with the US to get the public on board. Vietnam was also ruthless in quarantining entire districts where the virus was detected. It has limited healthcare resources and lacks the testing capacity of advanced economies like South Korea. Vietnam’s achievement is likely down to containing Covid-19 early, and using an intrusive state apparatus effectively.

Thailand’s Covid-19 numbers are also strikingly low, fewer than 3,000, with just 49 deaths. Thailand too is unable to test widely. Only 140,000 have been conducted since January. Health officials say mass testing would be too expensive. But Thailand also got its population on board very early with measures like facemasks. It has been able to isolate and trace contacts for identified cases, and has a network of one million health volunteers across the country.

Infections - and deaths - are rising quickly in Indonesia, where measures have been minimal. In Myanmar, which has a testing capacity of just 300 a day, there are fears the official Covid-19 number is far too low.

But none of these countries has levels anywhere near those in Europe and the US. Health experts aren’t sure why. Weather may play a part, as may social behaviour. It is probably too soon to know whether South East Asia will escape the terrible scenes witnessed at hospitals in Italy and New York.

Vietnam hasn't had a mass testing program but still managed to keep infection levels very low. I mentioned before that maybe the hot weather has helped, and that is being question above, whether the weather has some bearing on this.

 

Don't know if all the blame lays with the government, the health service itself must bear some responsibility.

 

You mean the Government led health service?

 

Any contract has to be honoured. It is not a simple thing to accept a lower payment. Players should not be asked to accept a lower payment. The money they are contracted to receive always will have to be paid. What could happen is that the players could recycle the wages into loans to the club. It’s not an easy thing to do.

 

The government has not rolled out testing for all care home residents showing symptoms so the cause of death over the past month is only an estimate.

 

In what way?

 

Yeah, how?