Coronavirus: Please use this thread for all COVID19 talk!

Some parts of Spain are bringing the flu jabs forward, to try and ensure maximum take up before the flu season starts. Might be a good idea for here.
I have also read that the ideal temperature for the coronavirus to thrive in is 4C, which might mean a very harsh winter for this country, especially if we have a major flu season to help spread the coronavirus on the coughs and sneezes generated.
Link to the Telegraph for the 4C.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...s-4degc-scientists-find-raising-fears-winter/

With regards to the excess deaths, I hope people/media don’t just right them off as “They were going to die anyway”, because any unnecessary shortening of life needs to be accounted for. PLUS the hideousness of the death is probably something that they may not have encountered from the natural death they were headed for, in which they could have been comforted by their families and not left in isolation.

 

Why would someone from Belgium want to go to Leicester?

 

I am seeing articles in which the inference is that the government no longer wants people to work from home.
They have begun to realise that shops, cafes, bars etc, near the workplace locations, that previously relied on the trade from those workforces, might not recover sufficiently well enough to continue trading, if workers stay at home.
Difficult decisions to be made, with potential for home workers being forced to return to the workplace and contracting covid as a result, as against staying home and controlling their working environment.

 

Our office went back last week. Theres only 5 of us and weve got good hygiene practices and distancing going on.

 

We have to accept that this is a question of balance. Society cannot sit Covid out forever. Lockdown reduced the incidence and prevented the health service being over run, but now everything has to get moving again with a certain level of care. People in the past have carried on whilst surrounded by disease, but, because of vaccines, we are unused to it. Remember that dreadful diseases like polio and diphtheria were still around in my childhood....I remember children in callipers for instance. Yes, think on that d***head anti-vaxxers.

 

It's proving very difficult to get people back to work at my job. Can see it causing problems down the line.

 

I think that masks MUST become mandatory in public, to limit spread as much as possible AND to give confidence to others.
I gave my car it’s 30/40 minutes workout this morning, (refuelled for the first time in around 4 months), and there are very, very few people wearing masks. Johnson has been photographed wearing one, for the first time in along time if at all, and he needs to stop prevaricating about the need for them.
Trump has also been seen wearing a mask, so perhaps the message is getting through.

 

Trump likely saw his poll numbers and decided maybe he could get back a few voters by wearing it once. I’m sure it will show up on an advertisement of his soon.

 

Wife and daughter are returning to the UK in September. Masks are mandatory here right now (only really being enforced in inside areas). Still a lot of cases here but good recovery rate. I’m really hoping the UK forces the mask issue. Has there been any America-style public backlash against mask wearing people there? I haven’t seen anything in the news about it. Dad wearing one constantly as he works at a hospital and has asthma.

 

Friend has asked me to emcee their wedding. We basically have no community spread here, but all precautions will be taken nonetheless.

This has led to the realization that I need to buy a mask that doesn't clash with their colour scheme. 2020 is weird.

 

I returned from a fortnight in France last week. Filled in the online form to certify where I was going to be after my return. At UK border control I wasn't asked for it. In fact the usual formalities of asking where I had been, why and how long were dispensed with. I do wonder if this is totally unconnected with the fact that when England scored 148 not out on Saturday our friends north of the border got a big fat zero. Let's be having wee Nicola to run our show. By the way I see the latest poll is 54% Leave up there.

 

Not a fan of Sturgeon but have to say she has come out of the crisis exceptionally well and almost to the extent that her press conferences seem to have as much traction with people south of the border as in Scotland. I think she has shown herself as Europe's most capable political leader and has outshone everyone else with sensible and practical comments. Even the remark about preventing travel from England is pragmatic - why would you want to compromise what has been achieved when you see the idiotic fashion in which English tourists behave when they flocked to Bournemouth?

Independence is a foregone conclusion and the argument that Scotland would be better off managed from Westminster has been debunked. With Boris at the helm, it is in Scotland's interest to quit the Union.

 

I have written to my friend Nicola asking how I can become a Sottish citizen as I am so appalled and ashamed to be English and to be mistaken for someone foolish enough to have voted leave and then to have compounded that stupidity and also voted for Spaffer ****ing Johnson. We need to create a roll of honour and a roll of shame. Those who voted remain and did not vote for the liar in chief would be listed on the Roll of Honour. The traitors will go on the Roll of Shame.

Voting leave was an act of pure treachery and played right into the hands of Putin and his plans to break up the EU.

 

I have also investigated the possibility as my grandmother was Scottish (sadly my grandfather was born in Liverpool of Irish parents )
I’m not particularly keen on living there though because of the weather, but it might be worth it for a couple of years then move to the EU with my (burgundy) Scottish (EU) passport ......

 

If I had the grandparents option I would most definitely take, just to retain EU citizenship and the freedom of movement.

 

The issue with masks here, is that the government doesn’t have the common sense to make them mandatory, except for on public transport, whilst that nasty piece of ****, Gove, hopes that shoppers will “use common sense” and wear them.
The ineptitude of this government couldn’t be made up, and any future films made about this pandemic will have people disbelieving that any government could be as incompetent and duplicitous as this one.
I keep reading that the public need to take responsibility for their own actions, which is true, but when the country’s leaders send out so many mixed messages, make so many u-turns it is difficult for some people to understand what they should or shouldn’t be doing.
I wear a mask every time I go out and rarely see others wearing them, unless they are at bus stops.

 

Just move to Scotland now. Probably be a decade before anything happened (if it even did) and you’d qualify by residency. Easy peasy.

 

According to her speech at the SNP Conference last year, Scotland will offer citizenship to anyone who wants to move there. They recognise the massive benefits immigration from all over the world has brought them.

It’s certainly an option worth considering, especially with the ****storm if no deal on the horizon.

 

The US still in lots of trouble with new infections.

 

The bit about offering citizenship. I am hoping that the Spanish government will review the situation and weigh up the benefits of having British ex-pats buying property and spending money there, all year round, against the cost of health care and see if they too could offer citizenship.