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Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Lovearsenalcock, Jan 2, 2012.

  1. PowerSpurs

    PowerSpurs Well-Known Member

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    Yes. It means they were the best performing team that year which is why they won the trophy. Doesn't tell you whether their strategy is correct though.
     
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  2. PowerSpurs

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    With the resources he has he should probably have got more points and a trophy so he might not deserve to be in a job.
     
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  3. PleaseNotPoll

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    They're in a final and they're favourites to win it. You'd expect them to finish 2nd too, given their fixtures and current position.
     
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  4. Diego

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    You should have stopped there mate, the discussion is about who has had the better last 5 seasons <ok>
     
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  5. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    First of all, you quoted KingHotspur back at me, which is not only odd because I had already read that comment - hence I replied to it - but the fact you can't seem to remember this doesn't exactly help your argument

    Secondly, you see that part where you say that Leicester won something, then failed to come close to sustaining that form? Yeah, that's what is known as "Exactly what I have said from the beginning", hence I keep referring back to the No Man's Land between Point A and Point B and you seem to...let me check...yup, you just keep on ignoring that part even though it's the basis of my argument, which is definitely going to have me taking you seriously the longer you keep responding

    Thirdly, are you really going to start playing Top Trumps now? In the period where we've gone through two managers, would you like to tell me how many Leicester have gone though? Here, let me tell you: three. Ranieri was sacked a few months into the season after winning the league, Claude Puel came in for a couple of seasons and it's not an exaggeration to say that he was a disaster, and then they hired Rodgers. Why do I bring this up? Because my argument is specifically the Claude Puel part of that time period, the part you pretended didn't happen, which takes me back to the simple question: do you think Spurs fans would be happy if, in the two years after winning the league, they'd gone through two caretakers and a bloke who lost more games than they won? Because I can answer that one for you: no

    What is delusional is you thinking you have a grasp of the mindset of Spurs fans, or to be more accurate the section of Spurs fans looking for an excuse to lose their ****, even though it is abundantly clear that you don't even when I actually spell this out for you several times, because you've decided to double down on being a moaning sod who isn't interested in actually engaging in something known as "adult conversation" and instead want to monologue about something you have no understanding of but want to pretend that you're an expert on even though, by this point, all you're really doing is justifying my calling it the Pond Life board for a couple of years at least by this point due to it being filled with people who can't engage in this thing called "adult conversation" because they want to be a bunch of sneering bores who simply cannot accept that they're talking ****e even though that's all the board exists for

    So when I tell you that if Spurs won the league then ended up finishing seventh that will see a section of the fanbase - one that KingHotspur just so happens to represent - losing their ****, I'm not doing it out of speculation, I'm doing it because that section of the fanbase has a track record of taking any excuse to kick off another moaning campaign, for example one summer when we sold our fourth-choice RB who had the grand total of one sub appearance in the first team as a sign that we were going to be selling Harry Kane, Son Heung-min and Christian Eriksen that summer because something something Levy Out, which is the exact sort of reactionary claptrap we rip the piss out of AFTV over

    The point is that strawman arguments and getting arsey when I point out you're talking crap isn't going to help me, and I'm perfectly fine with that. In fact, I'll just sit here knowing what I'm talking about and doing so to anyone who'''...well "listen" isn't the word as that's clearly not happening, but it looks like the Sunny D is wearing off on a few of them so I'll just sit right here and wait and see who else wants to keep missing the bloody point
     
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  6. Citizen Kane.

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    You really liked Kieran Trippier, so no.
     
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  7. Tobes

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    Wait, so a club that was relegated to the 3rd tier of English football the same year you last won a pot, and has since bounced back up the leagues, won the PL 8 years later and now the FA Cup might have got their strategy wrong in the timeframe we’re discussing?

    Oh mate <laugh>
     
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  8. Citizen Kane.

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    I wouldn't mind paying to watch Eric Dier and Serge Aurier if that was the ground.
     
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  9. humanbeingincroydon

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    Oh dear, you used up every lazy cliche in one post that looked remarkably like you having a hissy fit because your attempt at seeming clever backfired on you

    Such a shame you won't be "contributing" anything else due to exhausting your material...
     
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  10. Tobes

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    Didn’t read ^^^^
     
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  11. Sucky

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    Yeh its really Nice eh.
     
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  12. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Tripps was a baller up until his final season and I won’t hear anything less!
     
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    Except this ...

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  14. Citizen Kane.

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    Just seen the Wet Spam score.

    We all know how tomorrow ends...
     
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  15. remembercolinlee

    remembercolinlee Well-Known Member

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    That doesn't represent what #powerspurs
    said tbf.

    I think that Leicester have undoubtedly been more successful than us in the past 5 years. But it doesn't mean I haven't loved watching spurs...until JM took over.

    I really hated watching us under bloke in a coat cos we were boring as ****...even though we won a trophy I have no real fond memories of that time apart from Ginola.

    Same with Hoddle/Pleat/Santini tbh...thought we were pretty dull on the whole.

    Loved the Jol years cos we were exciting.

    Even have fond memories of Ramos cos we played some exciting football at times...although the last 6 months were poor.

    Loved us under Redknapp as we tried to attack and play on the front foot.

    Hated AVB time...tedious as ****.

    Pochettino was attack minded and some of the football was breathtakingly.

    JM killed my love of wanting to watch us as the football was ****ing turgid.

    This is my long winded way of saying that trophies are not my way of judging how much I enjoy watching my team.

    West Ham ain't winning a trophy this season but are loving it cos they have played some lovely football and climbed the table. They have enjoyed other seasons

    Everton ain't winning a trophy and may even finish below us but have generally enjoyed the season.

    I would have loved us to have won a trophy or two but it didn't happen.
    That's life.
     
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  16. humanbeingincroydon

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    Which team do you consider had the more successful 2012-13 season: Chelsea or Wigan?

    An extreme example, but does winning the FA Cup cancel out getting relegated that season? And there's a reason I ask that question, because it's one that needs to be asked of our fanbase sometimes, for example was the dreck served up by Juande Ramos (when he bothered actually having a plan at all) worth that Season Killer Cup win?

    This idea of a trophy as the be-all and end-all needs to stop, because realistically they need to considered as markers of growth because, as I said, a Blackburn or a Wimbledon can win a trophy once, but if it goes to **** after that the trophy is effectively all for naught
     
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  17. remembercolinlee

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    Spurs didn't furlough staff... we stopped it by protesting.
     
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  18. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    Oh cool, we're using undersized images found on Google

    Okay, my turn

    please log in to view this image
     
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  19. PowerSpurs

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    Fair point. But you could have made exactly the same point if they had finished second in the league five years back and lost today because that would have been way above expectations. Neither Everton or Spurs have won much this century but I think our strategy is way superior to yours because we have improved a lot over the twenty years and you've stagnated. If you had won the FA Cup a few times that wouldn't really alter my view.
     
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  20. humanbeingincroydon

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    FTFY
     
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