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The Future direction of SAFC

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Oliver's Army, May 22, 2021.

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Solutions to the problems at SAFC

  1. Sack the head coach, keep the players - it's all down to him

  2. Get shot of most of the players - it's their fault

  3. Keep the gaffer, he will get it right under the new owner

  4. Fans fault (lol, just joking)

  5. Armageddon, we are lifetime members of league 1 regardless

  6. That's football! Still getting a season ticket

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  1. Nacho

    Nacho Well-Known Member

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    I don't like to blame the players as I think they tried but I highly doubt that more than a couple of them would have been highlighted by the new team as potential signings. They simply weren't good enough and we're going to see a drastic improvement in personnel next season.

    I'm happy enough with Johnson and I'd like to see him get a fair crack at it working with the right players. He's not immune from criticism but who is, and he's very young for a manager even if we are turning his hair grey at an impressive rate. He'll be growing a bushy beard next.
     
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  2. flandersmackem

    flandersmackem Well-Known Member

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    I think a few fans need to calm down after the latest kick in the nuts.
    KLD has gone to great pains to recruit a team for the short and mid term, not a chance in hell he will have a knee jerk reaction and part company with LJ. As a club we need to stop this constant cycle of when things go t its up we sack the manager. Give the guy the opportunity to recruit his players, I am sick to the stomach about yesterday, but let's look at the bigger picture here. If we are together next season we could storm this god awful division.
     
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  3. Paperback Ruiter

    Paperback Ruiter Well-Known Member

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    Just seen the video where LJ in confronted by some idiots after the game. Interestingly they ask one great question, why bring Flanagan on in the dying minutes. His honest response is 'cos he's tall' sack him just for that.
     
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  4. Gil T Azell

    Gil T Azell Well-Known Member

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    Yet with all the defensive injuries he hasnt given the likes of Younger a chance.
     
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  5. Gil T Azell

    Gil T Azell Well-Known Member

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    I thought LJ looked a worried man. My concern is we bring 10-15 players in and he doesnt get it right.
     
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  6. Magnus

    Magnus Well-Known Member

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    If Johnson is going, it needs to be quick no messing about, get the new man in instantly

    if not ,Johnson and the club need to Move quick and get the players in quick as possible

    Pompey
    Charlton
    Sheffield Wednesday
    Ipswich
    And Rotherham will all be fighting for the top 2 next season
     
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  7. Random lad

    Random lad Well-Known Member

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    Sadly the manager has failed his extended interview
     
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  8. steesafc

    steesafc Well-Known Member

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    The players ultimately aren't good enough.

    We're still suffering the hangover from a couple of years or neglect from Donald and its going to take a little while longer for the new regime to get things moving forwards again. A massive summer recruitment drive ahead, I really want to see what our ambition looks like. Young, pacey, dynamic players on an upwards trajectory in their careers rather than plodders going the other way.

    It remains to be seen whether LJ will be given the bullet. I think he deserves another chance at it but for many fans it seems they've made up their minds with him.
     
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  9. Iain

    Iain Well-Known Member

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    The only problem is LJ won't recruit his own players he is head coach not a manager, so he will coach the first team squad of players that are brought in by the recruitment team.
    I'm not entirely sure how much of a say he will have on who comes in.
    I can't make my mind up about him to be honest. I get the fact that the squad he had is ****, but the bit I don't get was the likes of yesterday in the first half playing the way we did we would have beaten any team in the league.
    To me as a coach Johnson has to have them coming out exactly the same for at least the first 20 minutes, but we didn't and that was down to us sitting back not Lincoln out playing us.
    Some people thought we were unlucky yesterday but to by honest Lincoln could have had 4 or 5 in the second half.
    All said and done, what ever happens I can't wait for next season, couple of new grounds to try out KTF
     
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  10. Nig

    Nig Well-Known Member

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    Funny you should say that.


    https://www.google.com/amp/s/footba...ng-sacking-lee-johnson-amid-big-overhaul/amp/
     
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  11. Nordic

    Nordic Well-Known Member

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    the 'good' thing is, they won't be his players. LJ needs to mould a team as coach. Sure, he'll have a say in it but they won't be 'his' players.

    He's gonna have to get a tune out of them from the off, or he'll be out the door in October. I have moved right onto the fence with him, as his lineups and subs have been way off during our ****e run of form.
     
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  12. cumbrianmackem

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  13. makemdan

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    Maybe not but he will have some input into the process
     
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  14. Gil T Azell

    Gil T Azell Well-Known Member

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    You could argue he initially did well getting us to the play offs following on from Parky. He has also got a tune out of Wyke which I honestly thought was impossible. I also think any manager would have struggled with the defensive injuries we have had but to not give Younger a chance was criminal. But inclined to agree with you some of his selctions, tactics (4-2-2-2) and subs have been baffling.
    Obviously I want him to do well as it means we are but KLD needs to make a decision and sharpish.
     
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    rooch 3 Well-Known Member

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    I have a feeling his name will be in the headlines within a week.
     
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  16. clockstander

    clockstander Well-Known Member

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    Great post mate, gutted you were let down yesterday, but I am looking forward to to-morrow, the treatment of our u23 team has been a disgrace, the loss of form of Diamond says a lot to me he has been undermined by this fool, and to give him a blank cheque in the transfer market would be suicidal imo. If he shows the same ineptitude as he has shown so far, it will be another melt down at XMAS, and we will be scratching around for a new coach or whatever, at the worst possible time.
     
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  17. Porterfield73

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    Well if Speakmans data-led system is as good as it's bigged up to be, surely it will throw up all of the weaknesses from this season, and primarily the failure of Johnson to complete the job when we were in pole position to top the league. The drop in form since then is unacceptable, and yesterday's first half shows what we were capable of, the fact that he didn't get that tune out of his players for the last couple of months is proof that he's not good enough. I think we can get a better first team coach than LJ.
     
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  18. DAPARKERSAFC

    DAPARKERSAFC Well-Known Member

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    https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/e...dering-sacking-lee-johnson-amid-big-overhaul/

    Article this morning suggesting the club are questioning Johnson's position. Whether there's any substance in that I don't know.

    Personal opinion is that we'd making the same mistake 3 years running keeping a busted flush and going into a new season with a manager with a noose already round his neck.

    The squad rebuild is huge and I think that fresh start requires a new coach to work with KLD and Speakman without a failure hanging over him
     
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  19. OldNewtown

    OldNewtown Well-Known Member

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    Yet Peter Reid failed and we were screaming for his head. He threw in a couple of players got a few wins and went on to give us the best years of recent times.
    Still think he stayed too long but hey two sides to every coin.
     
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  20. SAFC4ever

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    Most of The players and the manager need to go. Total reset needed.
     
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