Simon Jordan has a dig at us

The idea that discrediting the man invalidates his argument is wrong. He doesn't seem to directly compare us with Palace so glass houses are irrelevant. He is commenting on us not comparing.
Yeah is obviously just clickbait for a large fan base but i was there against Palace that night, the atmosphere was good but I remember thinking it was an important enough game to sell out and we fell well short, which is odd...

 

I'm neither attempting to discredit the man or suggesting my comments invalidate his argument.

I didn't say he was comparing them to us, I did that.

His comment that a gate of 35,000 was 'odd' when they had 10,000 less was stupid and, after all this time, unnecessary and totally lacking context.

 

I tweeted in that we averaged 30198 in 2019/20 in League 1.
Jim White read it out and Jordan talked over him, saying that wasn't the point he was making.
Ironic when Palace can't better our crowds now.

 

I've really no idea what point he is trying to make ...

... possibly the only thing he and I have in common.

 

He's just trying to make himself relevant!

 

Whether we like it or not our fan base is known for leaving early and getting on the back of players and managers.

I havent been to a game since I left the country, so I don't know what crowds are like now but when I lived at home we were in a horrible cycle of turning on people, getting new ones in and turning on them again.

 

I have no idea why Jordan talks about North East Clubs.....the man is a total irrelevance, I assume he only wishes he could attract crowds at his two bit club with crowds like ours.

 

Crowds have been terrible now for the past 14 months. No ****er turning up. Fickle bastards

 

what the hell is he on about “filled on a regular basis”?? Nobody claims or even thinks that. We know we’re a 40-42000 club in the premier league. It would be if we were fighting for European football or the premier league title. Look at Boxing Day the other year where we had 46000 in.

we’re a well supported club with a ground that is too big for us. Obviously that’s our fault

 

To be fair it was us who demanded a huge new stadium, us who insisted it was extended and us who promised to fill it.

The club bears no responsibility for the way we've let everyone down.

We can't even find 100 supporters to dress in black, wave flags and sing the same song, for 90 minutes, every single game.

I hang my head in shame .....

 

Definitely a smell of hypocrisy about it when Palace have never been close to attracting the amount of fans we do through the door. Fans/the media/chairmen get too wrapped up in the % of the stadium that is full. The truth here is that most weeks pre pandemic if we'd played at Selhurst there would have been a couple of thousand locked outside. We have a big ground because we're capable of filling it, given the way the last 7 years or so have been and the fact we're in the third tier its absolutely no surprise we don't.

40k+ in the PL though and 30k in the third tier, I find it ridiculous to criticise that frankly.

 

FORMER PALACE OWNER ON KLD AND SAFC FANS The other morning, Kyril Louis-Dreyfus appeared on talkSPORT with former Crystal Palace owner Simon Jordan who bought the Eagles at a young age himself, just 31 in fact. HIS VERDICT ON KLD "He’s a confident and educated young man. You can tell his father was a billionaire. Look, I was 31 when I bought Palace which was very young and this is even younger and it’s a different dynamic of a club in a different part of the world that has had some success recently but not for some time. He’s going to be hampered by a couple of things because if the EFL have their way, they are going to try and get a salary cap or some form of salary cap in place to limit the amount of spending that can be done. So irrespective of how wealthy he is, he’s not just going to be able to splash the cash mentality and do what he wants. I think it’s right that he keeps his counsel about how he feels about the loss of the play-offs. Because ultimately, it’s a new thing for him and it’s better to be pragmatic about his opinion." JORDAN ON JOHNSON, DONALD AND METHVEN "Lee Johnson is a decent football manager and Sunderland has a lot of energy behind it with a lot of fans and they’ll be looking for him to do something the other guys didn’t. If these guys are who we believe them to be then they are a very different set of animals to the previous owners. Stewart Donald and Charlie Methven went in there and it was never a fit to me. They leveraged Sunderland’s own money which was taking the parachute payments and discounting them in order to acquire the club. That’s not quite the same as these guys coming in with an innate ability to be able to fund this club and push this football club further forward, notwithstanding what I’ve just said about potential salary caps. It is very important for him (Louis-Dreyfus) – without anyone telling him what he should do because we all need to learn and make our own mistakes – but when I first walked into Palace I was told we didn’t do things a certain way. Well, the way they were doing things had got them into serious trouble so I think we’ll have a go at doing it my way, so he has to be definite in his views. They’ve got to be educated and counselled and not just walk in there like a bull in a china shop." HIS THOUGHTS ON SAFC "Kyril is as good, to some extent, as the people he puts around him. Irrespective of whether he has come from a great deal of wealth and his father’s past, he doesn’t know English football and he doesn’t know the landscape or League One. You can’t do anything about not having experience so you buy some alongside you and get some proper people who can come in alongside you but what does that look like? It looks like it needs to get you out of League One. Okay, what does a successful team that gets out of League One look like? It might look like Sheffield United. Okay, what were the characteristics of their players? What do we need to do to be able to get this club out of League One? And he would do well to steer away from some of the agents who might be buzzing around who might be thinking, ‘Aye, aye… halcyon days again at Sunderland.’ And get some sensible people in alongside him." ON THE SUNDERLAND FANS "Their supporters… and I don’t mean to be disrespectful to them in any shape or form and this is not me attempting to be so, but their support is very odd. When we played them in a play-off semi-final in 2004 when Mick McCarthy was the manager, we beat them 3-2 at Selhurst Park so they were well in the game. We go up to the Stadium of Light thinking that it was going to be an absolute cauldron and that it was going to be full to the rafters - and it wasn’t. It was nowhere near full to the rafters. So I think Sunderland have built this 48,000-seater stadium and I think the idea that it gets filled on a regular basis and that there’s this huge enthusiasm that can be easily harnessed, I’m not so sure that’s quite how it is."

 

Funnily enough, I was at the away leg, but couldn't get tickets in the Sunderland end. The home end was nowhere near sold out and two of us went in the stand with the 'ultras'. It's a bit hypocritical then, to criticism Sunderland for not selling out either.

 

Every time he talks about us he trots out that same story, it's getting a bit boring now, yeah we didn't sell out a midweek home game that will have been on Sky anyway. I like him but he needs to move on from that one.

 

Someone should remind him that Palace has one of the largest catchment areas/population density of any other club in the country.

Let us know how well you're doibg tapping into that 800,000 while you're getting your tips done in yer purple suit..... yer prick.

 

It is odd how our crowds often go down for very important games. The play off against Portsmouth and the semi final against Man U come immediately to mind.

 

I couldn't give a fcuk what any of them cnuts on Talksport say.

 

He's trying to get bites. Works a treat when be goes after the mags. I'm not bothered what he says tbh. Most of southern media are ignorant of anything north of Watford bar north west. Fu*k em. We'll pi*s them off even more on the way back up taking one of their favoured clubs spaces.