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Summer transfer rumours

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Washysafc, May 25, 2021.

  1. marcusblackcat

    marcusblackcat SAFC Sheriff
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    En?? We haven’t signed players. Don’t talk nonsense. '!!!
     
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  2. samwise_new

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    ffs i give up... even someone (guess where) claiming KLD is 'out of his depth'.

    the first bloke in a long time who is not trying to throw money at the club in a desperate attempt to get somewhere (we have ALL seen how that worked in the past)

    data driven recruitment policy, ok, not the first to try that route but the first to actually head hunt people specifically for the group (short basically believed whatever people told him and paid them good money)

    he is possibly the first one not to try and make any bold claims, 'this will take time' has been a common theme.

    he claims he is too young, the lad has been brought up around football as a business, he was 'blooded' in business with his family ties within football, he has known little else.
     
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  3. Draig

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    Just a thought, we have all heard LJ moaning at length how he has no time between matches to do any training work with his players.

    In his interview with the Echo Speakman agrees with this because he says; "You want to try and change the style of play to something that people want to come and watch, and I think you can tangibly see we're working towards that as we change the personnel, the head coach gets time to work with the players etc.

    I was on the record last season saying that it can be difficult to achieve that when you have those performance markers every Saturday and Tuesday, with next to no training time in between."

    So if we bring players in after the start of the season LJ is going to have no time to work with them.

    It's all well and good saying we are looking for players who play the way we want and will slot right in to the team.

    Yet we all know it doesn’t work like that. Players have to get to know each other, get used to each other's pace and work out how they play in different scenarios.

    In other words, even players bought in pre-season take time to fit in and for the whole team to gel.

    It might not be a disaster, but however Speakman wants to spin things it is still hugely disadvantageous for us to be approaching the season's kick off missing players in so many positions.

    This can't be put down as anything other than a management failure - it's like starting the season with a voluntary points deduction.
     
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  4. Culinary

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    Agreed. From what I’ve seen posted elsewhere by others they dislike him because he told them a few home truths too in which case he should be lauded.

    I have a feeling most of the players with the biggest issue are no longer at the club.
     
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  5. Comfy

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    I remember the good old days of the 70s and 80s when we could bring a player in early Friday and he was playing the Saturday with no team bonding or training. I’ll say it again good players can fit into any team straight away.
     
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  6. ned_werby

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    Really? You've never mentioned it before........
     
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  7. LD19SAFC

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    And I will again. 4 days until we start our season. Winchester and Neil set to start in defence <laugh> Not good enough.
     
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  8. King Kareoke

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    Was just going to mention that. Out of his depth now. You just cannot fathom what people think although could be a complete wind up.
     
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  9. Robref62

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    Have you seen the Ipswich results in pre-season. Been really poor, beaten 0-3 v Millwall, 3-3 v Colchester. Conceding a lot of goals doesn't bode well.
    They're basically about fitness, but if it was us the fans would be in total meltdown.
     
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  10. Robref62

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    THIS TOTALLY!!
     
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    You'd assume the only reason we'd "lose out" would be a) location (Doncaster would mean he could stay where he lives now, let's not forget he's only 18) and/or b) he's guaranteed playing time at the other clubs. If Stewart is our main man this season, then Jebbison will start on the bench

    Neither scenario (of us losing out) would overly concern me. Football is a fickle game
     
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  12. Robref62

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    Some ppl should be denied 'freedom of speech' to be totally frank!!
     
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  13. Southern A

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    I definitely don’t think KLD or Speakman or any of them are “out of their depth”, which would be a ridiculous thing to say.

    I do think however they may have been taken by surprise at how difficult this would be in the short term. Nothing wrong with that and they’ll learn lessons. They absolutely seem the type of group that will sit down to reflect when all this is done.

    I still have every confidence that this window will end up successful and that future windows with this regime will feel smoother.
     
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    Yes
     
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    Do you? What makes you say that?
     
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  16. Smug in Boots

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    ".... even players bought in pre-season take time to fit in and for the whole team to gel."


    Yet a 17 year old looked, from day one, like he'd been in the side for years ...

    ... Evans looked quite at home when he played.
     
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  17. Nozs’ Hat

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    Just don’t bother reading RTG mate, you’ll be a lot happier for it. Stick to this place and the more balanced opinions on here. Although views on here differ, in the main, people are expressing genuine thoughts (not looking for bites) and can appreciate the views of others, even when disagreeing.
    Fullback situation isn’t ideal, but it doesn’t mean suddenly the whole club is a shambles. Hopefully we get in some very good additions and we don’t suffer for the lateness of their arrivals, but if we do, I imagine it would be a lesson learnt and wouldn’t happen again.
     
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  18. Smug in Boots

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    Yes let's bring back Vokins and McFadzean ...

    ... problem solved <laugh>

    I'm all for realism but this flood of pessimism is ridiculous. The season hasn't started, the window hasn't closed ...

    ... but it's as if some people are addicted to being miserable.
     
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    It's a popular narrative that people are spouting. no idea why, it's as if some are desperate for the cub to be in chaos
     
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  20. The Norton Cat

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    A player is only being played out of position if he can't play that position. If Winchester becomes our first choice right back, whats the problem? Playing him there doesn't seem to have caused us many problems in preseason.
    Players swap positions sometimes. I watched a half decent defensive midfielder on Saturday, someone later told me he used to be a striker. In fact, Dwight Yorke did that for us, didn't he? All this stuff about 'specialist full-backs' is just panic for panics sake imo. Would be good to free people up to play their preferred positions but if they are good enough in another position, there's no issue.
     
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