Match Day Thread General matchday thread.

I don't. How is a fine going to improve the situation in any sort of way for a club that is in deep **** financially and already can't pay everything expected of them?

 

Morris has already bought the stadium for a grossly inflated price to spunk more money on **** players and a celeb manager. Guy has suffered enough.

 

Indeed, a prolonged period of mismanagement and under investment, that culminated in Administration... was all very depressing to live through as a Leicester fan .. although it was mainly caused by the collapse of the football league's proposed TV deal that left us unable to make the stage payments on our then new stadium, rather than any reckless spending on the squad ... we were dire on the pitch with a right bunch of journeymen.

Needed £500k to come out of administration. Lineker was the figurehead for the campaign but not one of the financial contributors. Emile Heskey, on the other hand, put in £100k of his own money in recognition of what the club had given him... didn't seek publicity for it either - in fact, never has... grand lad.

Despite the local rivalry I wish them well - as I did with Coventry - towns and cities of such size need a footie team.

 

In short it won't ... and has little or no prospect of being paid ... so is completely pointless ...

Unlike points ...which are obviously not pointless

 

I assume you suffered like my lot from the collapse of Ondigital/ITV digital, whatever brand it was under then. That's why our away end never ever got completed, the ground was going through a complete rebuild at the time.

 

That's a good point

 

One point is good.

 

Football clubs can and will make money if run properly, the moneys can be recouped.
A points deduction makes a team likely to earn less money, especially if it leads to relegation.

 

We gambled on the TV deal in terms of the stadium ... ironically, if it had gone through we'd probably be where Derby are nowadays, because we wouldn't have had that much left over from the TV deal to invest in the squad until the stadium was paid off ...

 

That's the point, we can't make money because stupid prices are being asked for players, so we have to rely on the loan market instead. Trouble is unless you're savvy like Steve Evans who has good contacts in the higher tiers, then you are likely to be relegated.

I give you Bristol Rovers as an example, clearly their new investors didn't know how the lower leagues worked, got caned and relegated to L2. Now fighting off relegation to the National League. Leyton Orient some seasons back, suffered exactly the same fate.

The benefit for my lot is we are now the longest current surviving side in L1, after Posh got promoted. So we know how this shhite works.

 

Thanks for pointing it out

 

Yup we gambled ours on the ground. TV company went under, we ended up with a £10M debt, which erm....mysteriously disappeared. Maybe the banks wrote it off in the crash, who knows, I certainly don't.

 

I personally wouldn’t care less if they went to the wall. They’ve been taking the piss out of the EFL for a few years now and deserve everything they get.

 

I think it was longer than that @brb.

 

Probably mate. I only became aware of the situation because of Ron, Wycombe mod and fan. When I moved all the teams around on not606 during preseason, he asked why I had relegated Wycombe. I'm like, ok, what have I missed, that's when I did a little research and found out about what's been going on at Derby. Then I heard a few days ago, they had bartered a 12 point deduction down to 9, so I'm thinking that will put them straight in the Championship relegation zone, then woke up to the rest of latest escapades this morning.

 

Can’t remember what season we were last in the Championship but if the EFL had applied the rules correctly, Charlton would have stayed up and Derby relegated.
There was talk of Charlton suing Derby/ EFL over its handling of the whole matter but it was quietly dropped. I think someone had a quiet word in Charlton’s ear and said it would be unwise!! Probably the correct decision based on our own mismanagement going on in the background.

 

For 20 years I travelled up and down the country supporting Leeds, around that time I worked from Anglesey to Yarmouth and Devon to Glasgow, holidays too, met a lot of fans of many clubs mostly good, some bad but I can honestly say every Derby fan I've encountered have been as thick as ****, they seem a breed of their own, their first words as a child, mom, dad, Dirty Leeds. I have absolutely no sympathy for them whatsoever, after the gloating when we got with the -15 , I was hoping this day would come, now it's here, I'll just sit back and enjoy it.

 

Good turn out last night from you lot. The phone lights was a highlight of the night for me.

More general sales please

 

Derby have been using every loophole for years and years trying to gain advantages over everyone else in the league trying to avoid FFP. They sold the ground for an overinflated price to the owner, signed Rooney as a player coach so his wages didn't count for FFP.

They've been a **** of a club for years now. Remember the car crash couple of years back? The captain and two younger players were passed up and smashed their car up after a Christmas party. The captain (Keogh) had season ending injuries and at 33 was their highest earner on a long contract. They sacked him but kept the two younger lads because they were worth more on the transfer market. The list goes on and on.

It's nice to see a couple of fans from other clubs call them out as their actions made it an unfair playing field and resulted in multiple teams not getting promoted or getting relegated whilst they played by the rules. Derby have been cheating for years and were just gambling on going up. I hope they go completely bust. **** 'em. Wycombe will be fuming.

A couple of other teams did the same and got away with it. Bournemouth went up after massively going over FFP yet got no sanctions when they went back down. If Villa hadn't won their play off against Derby then they would have certainly faced points deductions the following year.

I'm not sure many fans really understand the advantage these ****ers get. It makes it a massively unbalanced playing field. I hope they are ****ed for years. They knew exactly what they were doing and the chickens have now come home to roost.

 

We do travel well.