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Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by Bozz, Jun 17, 2011.

  1. johnsonsbaby

    johnsonsbaby Well-Known Member

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    Southampton interested in Matip.
     
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  2. moreinjuredthanowen

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    Good but they are not up yet.

    I'd love to see him get back but he needs 1 game a week max.
     
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    I was surprised. I expected Poch to do better although he turned things around in the end.
     
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  4. johnsonsbaby

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    Now reporting that the Ipswich manager is likely to reject a new deal ''amid interest from Chelsea and Brighton". Not the best idea from him. He would be wise to see if he has it in him to manage his team in the PL before taking on a bigger club. Give it a season and if he does well, the job offers will always come rolling in.

    Getting Potter to Chelsea vibes here.
     
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  5. InFrancroatiaWeTrust

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    And if they go down which based on budget seems likely to may not get another chance like that for 5-10 years if ever again.
     
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  6. Turbia Milk

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    Getting fired after 6 months with Chelsea, the parting money will give him more money than staying with Ipswich for another 5 years too.
     
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    Get what you're saying but he's got to back himself too. Like Bisc says, the bubble will probably burst next season when Ipswich struggle
     
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    Massive influx of players last summer (and as few previous windows) was always going to make it hard to feel and get going. They started to look like a team towards the end of the season and I thought they'd be much better next season
     
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    Back himself to not be able to manage Ipswich in the PL or back himself to be selected for a PL team and not be able to manage them either? <whistle>

    I'd be delighted for him to get the Chelsea job and watch them struggle around the middle of the table for most of the season again.
     
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    Take the big job as you believe you can do it. Chelsea is a crazy choice though TBF, they'll spit him out before chewing
     
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    I read an interesting piece from a 'finance expert' on what promotion would mean for Ipswich. The two things that stood out were "they'll be very competitive " and "Ipswich Town will have a bigger budget than every team in Belgium, probably every team in the Netherlands bar the likes of Ajax". Don't expect them to do a Sheffield or Burnley.
     
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    I think if you're looking to get your career off to a good start, you don't go to the clubs that you are almost guaranteed to fail at. His career could stall before it's started. He's only 38. Bisc said if McKenna doesn't take a top job now, he may not get the chance again for 5 or 10 years. The way I see it, the same applies if he does.
     
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    I don't quite know what that means.

    They will be competitive? Best of luck with that. Who knows. Some come up and stay up, some have a flier, most struggle.

    Bigger budget is a big so want for me. That budget won't buy much. This is the prem having 30 or 40mil is no big deal
     
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    I agree Chelsea is career suicide, I just meant in general you've got to back yourself. If he goes there and wins major trophies, he won't be sacked. He's got to back himself and believe he can win those trophies, but outsiders can see that in reality it's not going to happen.
     
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    It also raises his profile. If he stays put and Ipswich manage a respectable position he'll get some kudos - but even failure at Chelsea will get him noticed more. And, for some reason, even failure at a big club seems little impediment to being given big jobs elsewhere.
    José told me that.
     
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    I agree, in general, that you have to back yourself otherwise why take the job. I think timing, especially for young managers, is crucial. We applauded Alonso for staying put for the time being before moving too soon and spoiling his career. I can't applaud his approach and at the same time think that the opposite approach by another young manager is also admirable.
     
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    Where are Potter and Lampard now? <whistle>
     
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    I don't just say it for managers, I say it for players too. Scott Parker should never have joined Chelsea but he did because he believed in his abilities and he believed he could get into their team. Outsiders knew he wouldn't.
     
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  19. InFrancroatiaWeTrust

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    Two very different scenarios. Alonso just won the league and is managing in the CL. McKenna is managing a team that’s 90% chance of being relegated down to where he came from.
     
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    There are always exceptions.
    Lampard never looked like management material.
     
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