He seems to pick and choose when he puts in some effort, he doesnt always get it right. last time I saw him was against Coventry, one of their defenders picked up the ball (along loose clearance I think) around the centre circle. although there wa plenty of time to read the play and get into position to close him down, Guly, some 5 yards away, just stood and watched.Aforementioned defender ran 20yds into open space and set up one of their goals. "Lazy G*t!" I screamed. Then of course he goes and gets his ass into gear, makes a great run off the defender to score the winning goal, "I love you and want your babies!" I screamed. He is an enigma.
He stands around half the game doing **** all, any pressing is an after-thought. And he is a pathetic pussy that is too much of a wimp to contest almost all 50-50s and aerial balls. Who exactly has a lower work-rate? That's right, nobody. Great he scores occassionally with the odd assist. Always after blowing golden chances beforehand
I think Guly is one of those players who, if they don't get into the match early on, the game can then pass them by. It answers why he can be inconsistent and yet have a great work rate in another match. It's unprofessional, I know, but I'd rather have Guly as he is than another player of much more limited talent and vision. Would you swap him for a David Batty style player..? No, neither would I. They're ten-a-penny players. Guly's special.
The odd assist? Only Lambert, Snodgrass and Ben Davies have more assists than Guly in the Championship this season.
Are you a total idiot! Guly has had a great season so far. Yes he's a bit erratic but his touch in the build up to one of the goals v Forest was sublime and some of his finishes have been brilliant. He's been playing up front recently and his work rate is good enough for that.
Deary me. Is it all the youngsters moaning? Are any of the oldies moaning? If so are they Saints fans? A game of football is rarely a cricket score, more often than not won by a small margin. If a player is on for 90 minutes yet only does 3 thingswell with the rest rubbish and if 2 of those 3 things mean a goal then he has earnt his place for next game as far as I am concerned. This is the old problem of workrate that has meant England teams are full of workhorses and creative players are left behind. We are quick to bemoan this fact about England yet Southampton are somehow different? From reading the above made me remember a player we used to have. Terrible work rate, never tracked back, would have spells just walking around doing nothing. Sometimes was un-noticeable in the game apart from a few minutes. Was played in an attcking role but scored about 1 headed goal in 20 years, can't remember ever seeing him make a tackle. He would however score a few goals and create quite a few to boot. At the same time just his presence on the pitch would inspire his own and make oppositions very wary. I think his name was Matt Le Tissier or something like that. Shouldn't have been in the team though because he didn't work hard enough. Never mind the goals or assists, workrate is the only thing that matters. And before people say Le Tissier is a class above Guly, yes he is however it is the same thing. Goals and Assist win games, not running around for 90 minutes. Sound like you guys would rather Nigel had replaced Do Prado for Mackail Smith in the summer!!! A little look Goals: Do Prado - 7, CMS - 6. So 20% workrate has outscored one of the highest workrate strikers in the whole league Assists: Do Prado 7, CMS - 6. So 20% workrate has out-assisted one of the highest workrate strikers in the whole league Some interesting ones for you: He has had less shots than CMS yet scored more goals and more have been on target. He has less yellows and no reds so does not get suspended always giving the manager the option to select him. So he who wrote the below, needs to watch more carefully, maybe wonder if he/she actually knows much about football before writing such drivel. Take a look for yourselves guys: http://www.football-league.co.uk/page/DivisionalAssists/0,,10794~20117,00.html So to add to the 'Get a Grip' theme we have been seeing lately. Adkins has all the info, Adkins has the choices and the managerial nouse, In Adkins we trust (or do we.) Should we bemoan England spending the past 40 years favouring workrate over talent yet be the opposite for Saints? Or is a cumulative 5 minutes total from 90 worthy of the place if in those cumulative minutes goals and assists are produced or should we favour a 90 minute workrate player who doesn't match the assists/goals stat? I know which I would prefer because one says you worked hard, the other says you won (or had a better chance of winning) The simple fact of the matter is mathematical 7+7 = 14. Guly is worth nearly a goal a game to the team.games. Take into account he plays for circa 60 minutes of each of those games compared to CMS and others. That 'nearly a goal a game' means Guly's name is one of the first on the team sheet every week. Same as Lallana and Lambert. Add those 3 together then you are looking at 2 goals per game.
The perfect foil to all the doubters, ImpSaint. I too, thought of Le Tiss, and that people have long bemoaned the fact that English players are all work rate and no flair. Well, apart from Le Tiss and very few others, that's still the case. Adam Lallana is the closest English player we have in the team with more than a small dose of flair. And I'm proud that we've got our very own Brazilian player to provide us with the rest we need.
Sorry guys but some of you must be talking about a different Guly to the one I am thinking of. He puts in a defensive shift every week, covers the full back and works as hard as anyone.Take Guly out of our team and life would be very different, he is a massive player for us.
Indeed I spent most of my youth and early twenties lauding Le Tiss to my peers to a resounding response of 'fat lazy luxury player'. Not from Saints fans though who were all of the same thinking as I. Seems times have changed and we now cannot see this of our own players. I am a captain of a top pool team in Lincoln. I have 12 players in the team yet only 7 frames available each week. There are undoubtedly some players that are way ahead of others in terms of ability and skill however the rules I make are simple. Lose this week and you're out the next. some of those lesser players are unbeaten and so they play the following week. some of those better players have lost and have to watch the following week. Do they complain and point out their superiority? No they know the score and when they are back in they try to win. If they don't then the same happens Myself. I am easily the best in the team yet have lost 2 out of 5 this season and therefore have sat out 2 games of 7. The worst 2 players in the team (by my Captain's eye) are both 7 out of 7. Some lucky games, somethey should have lost but they didn't. It's that point that counts and not playing well. Playnig well doesn't get you the point unless you win the game However the team are all together, they all know the score, they respect each other and egos are not allowed to get in the way. That makes the team better as a result and that spirit of togetherness and all being part of the team adds a few point in itself over the season as everybody is relaxed, everybody is comfortable with how we work and therefore there is no infighting If there was then star player or not I would have them out of my team!! And in would come someone that would fit in and have he same mentaility whether they were as good as the ousted or not.
Interesting you say that. My brothers who were at the game and are Leicester fans say he totally controlled the game and was the best player on the pitch. I can't comment as I wasn't there.
He is probably on a thread detailing that England have failed over the past 3 decades due to workhorses being preferred over flair players.
Don't be too harsh on him, theres a fair few agree-ables who slate him up until he scores, on here, then they say; 'Thought he'd bag one today.' They know who they are. LeGod just managed to get quoted.
I have to admit to have taken a shine to Guly....trouble is he seems to be a typical Brazilian very laid back but at times sheer brilliance. He is at times a very frustrating player to watch. He does however usually put a shift in and covers a fair amount of the ground. He should quite frankly have worked the goalkeeper a few more times. He gets in the right position but unfortunately his finishing at times is very poor indeed. As I said a very frustrating player to watch.
I bet they never had these discussions about Guly at his old club, Cesena, in Italy. It seems to be a particularly English obesession about rating workrate above skill, which blighted Matt Letiss' England chances and I have often thought that if Matty had been chosen to play for France instead of England, he would've gained many more caps. Guly was playing up front in a 442 last night, it is not his job to track back all the time, the team would lose shape totally if he did as there would be no 'out ball' to the forwards from defence. Ok, he lost possession a few times, but his movement is so intelligent and he constantly gets into great positions, hence his great goals and assists stats. Make no mistake, we would miss him if he wasn't in the team IMO.
