The FA have made Racism more likely to be a problem in future.

I am convinced that had the Suarez incident not happened, and he hadn't been suspended for 8 games that what happened last night, wouldn't have happened. The fans who did it, not condoning them in anyway, more than likely made abusive comments to provoke a reaction and make a point about racism in general.

I also fear that with the Suarez sentence will mean more of these racist comments will happen; and fans all over the country will think it's okay to start being racist to players as long as they don't get caught.

There was much less racism in the game before the Suarez "incident."

I'd also like to say; for someone who I heard say this on another thread... what is the difference between calling someone a black twat, and a fat twat, or even an African twat. Black, like many other things, is a human trait to which people have been discriminatory against for years.

My main gripe with this is, if you're the hypocrite that feels it's alright to call someone a fat twat, but at the same time feels anyone who calls someone a black twat (again, terrible thing to say and not taking anything away from the offence caused) should be shot - then you really need to re-evaluate your morals, because people kill themselves everyday over bullying of such sort, that doesn't have to be racist.

 

Also how easy will it be to make another club look bad..... Go to a rival clubs game..... Apply as a supporter, go in the home end and start the abuse............

This whole situation stinks.

 

It's not the FA, it's the lobby groups behind the scenes leaning on the FA and urging them to make an example out of racists.

You think that the dusty old dinosaurs at the FA would've given Suarez an 8-game ban, purely of their own accord? They probably have the same attitudes as Jimmy Hill when it comes to race.

 

Completly agree with this, it has caused a lot of ill feeling. But as they say, today's news is tomorrows fish and chip paper. Suarez will probabally be jeered by the away fans for a few months, then hopefully this can all be forgotten about. Sick of hearing about Surez & racism. Anyone with half a brain cell know that Suarez is innocent in all this, but some fans of rival team's are sitting on there moral high horse and using this racism business as a stick in which to beat liverpool, and in the process stiring up the dirt.

 

Correctomundo! I said before the suarez verdict that big institutions in this country are terrified of being called racist. The british now have a bigger complex about racism than the germans do about WW11

 

Look at the Arsenal fans treatment of Adebayor a few seasons back, yet the Arsenal fans swarm our board day after day accusing us all of being racists because we stood up for aour player, who was accused of racism by a fella with previous, not to mention the fact that Negrito is commonly used in south america.

 

Exactly.

The FA panel consisted of Denis Smith, some old QC and the chairman of Sheffield and Hallamshire FA. Hardly paragons of modern multiculturalism.

 

Exactly was I was saying to me Da earlier on today, it's just highlighted racism again and making it worse.

 

EDIT: Davidako beat me to it.

 

It's a bizarre and worrying suggestion that racism shouldn't be clamped down upon in case it upsets other people who feel victimised by not being able to be racist themselves. Is that the point the fan last night was standing up for?

 

Stay off the drugs maaaan!

 

Don't get me wrong here, Liverpool is a fantastic club with more soul than Surrey, Abu Dhabi United and Chelski combined, and is no more or less racist than any other big club.

But the Suarez case and the Oldham incident were two separate things, and to blame one for the other is a slippery slope to go down. It amounts to saying that if someone is wrongly found guilty of making racist remarks, it is somehow less wrong for a small minority of idiots to shout racist abuse.

 

If they ever catch the lad who said whatever was said he should be named and shamed, if he was a true fan of Liverpool FC then put him in front of Kenny so he can see the disappointment on his idol's face aimed right into his eyes. That should do it.

 

That one incident might not have happened, but then racist incidents unfortunately happen all the time time in football. There was one when we played Leeds back in October and one when we played West Ham back in April. Pretty sure there was one involving Spurs last month as well.

Tho' I don't agree with the FA's actions increasing the likelihood of racism. Whilst that specific incident might not have happened, if Suarez had gotten a lower punishment or been acquitted it would probably only have been a matter of time before some other fan racially abused Suarez or another Liverpool player claiming that racism is now fine. To be honest, I'm sure there will still be some twat of a Utd supporter who will throw racist abuse when Liverpool come to OT on the basis that Suarez should have been banned for life or some other bollox. Some football fans are just scum, and no matter what the FA did with Suarez someone was going to use it as an excuse to throw some bile around.

I also don't agree that any rational person will actively racially abuse someone to "make a point" about racism.

I think the main difference there is that there is a much larger history of racist abuse compared to "fatist" abuse. I don't remember many people being enslaved cos they were fat! Same with homophobia, sexism, and particularly anti-Semitism. You can abuse a Catholic for being religious as much as you like, but doing it to a Jew is a big no no cos of the collective impact on Jews after the Holocaust etc. Rightly or wrongly, that is sadly how society judges things, and ultimately all the justice bodies are just a reflection of social demands.

You'd have to be pretty pathetic to spend £30-40, buy replica kit to make it authentic, and probably bribe all your friends to claim you actually supported the team you claim when they were questioned by the police!

Dunno about that to be honest. I can imagine the Disciplinary Commission reporting back to the FA that Suarez was guilty and should have a four match ban as per the rules. The FA then shat themselves about how the media would respond to someone getting a ban that is only one more game than you'd get for a bad foul and bumped it up to eight in an effort to "look tough".

 

I am a utd fan who lived in southport and had mates in kirby etc. Am from an BME background and have been to anfield twice with mates
I suffered no racism at anfield. I have met Kenny and had a good craic with him. Basically not here to wum

The OP is IMO wrong. The guys we are talking about are racists who IMO used the suarez case to basically abuse ANY black player due to some stupid notion of 'justice' or being hard done by. To suggest anything else is IMO ludicrous. They basically need to be told they are ****s by all

Racism is rife in english football in my experience. None moreso than on th eInternational stage. In fact I think the introduction of foreign stars has helped get rid of some of it at league levels

I remember taking s group of young people from BME communities to an england U21 match v portugal at Brittania stadium. They had to be escorted out at the end due to the abuse they wer getting. Its all on film (never been shown) and was ironically part of the KROF campaign

 

Tom is a 20 year old Norwich player and had absolutely nothing to do with Suarez or Man U, He was attacked because he is black... If it was just 1 or 2 fans then you can understand but when a majority of your fans chant Suarez after, this galvanised the fact that a stand was made that defending Suarez means abusing black players on mass..... John Barnes had to put up with bananas thrown at matches in the 80`s and clearly you have not evolved.

 

lol

 

To be fair there has been no suggestion that those fans realised there was racist chanting going on. They may have thought he was accusing a player of something, or just complaining to the ref in general.

 

swarbs whilst I agree that this may have been the case, I think SN is closer to the truth

This to me was going to happen, its a silly notion of sticking up for your club/player. its ludicrous and the fact that many others joined in is IMO a very sad thing for LFC and football generally

I am reminded of the killings of the sikhs in america after 9/11. They fitted the description of OBL although a different peoples altogether

 

Maybe if KK had not worn Free Suarez T-shirts the incident would not have happened. Thick fans take their lead from people like KK.

KK should take a strong stand on racism and see the bigger picture