Football has gone so soft it almost makes me sick. Week in and week out we see so many soft sendings off that it ruins the game. Fair enough, I know what the rules are and going by those rules, today Cisse had to go. But is it right? What was worse in real terms? Johnson's challenge from behind or Cisse reaching for him afterwards? But inflicting no damage whatsoever. It's not just today's game though, we see it almost on a weekly basis. From players diving, feigning injury, attackers leaving their leg in so that the diving goalie collides with them etc etc. All penalties, all sending off offences. Something is seriously wrong. The rules need changing. It's not fair on the fans who fork out a fortune to watch an uneven contest. It's not fair for fans who fork out a fortune on season tickets to be deprived ( plus the additional banned games incurred )of a star player for a mistake. Even if the player was wrongly sent off the red is never recinded. The system is flawed and needs changing. The FA can't be seen to not back their referee, no matter how bad the decision was.
With Cisse there was no intent, no aggression, no strike. Its absolute trollox. I have looked at the incident several times and i really can't see anything wrong with that. I played the game when a man took a clatter and got back up as quickly as possible. It was almost a sign of your manhood to be able to ride a bone cruncher. It's becoming a non contact sport played by nancy boys. In fairness to johnson he did not over react. As least we have to acknowledge that.
I felt the same after the CL when Drogba was red carded. Sadly rules are rules and Cisse had to go. Two wrongs don't make a right but I see your frustration
Agree,I really felt like asking Clattenburg for my money back.Looking forward to the game all week for it to be ruined in one moment.Agree with all thats been said,this is happening more and more.These soft decisions are ruining the contest.The result today was crucial for both clubs and for it to be decided by a so called top referee is criminal.
How about this for something radical, a current red card offence is a penalty and the player must be replaced by someone on the bench. 2 yellows and the player has to be replaced without a penalty being awarded. Of course Id change the red card and penalty for a clear goal scoring chance too, its made to be punished twice.
Posted on another thread how disappointing the inconsistency is with refs, got in from the game andwatched the last part of city v foolham to see dembele and kolorov both square up and put their heads in each others only to walk away with a yellow each. Barton got sent off for less against Norwich.
I agree, I don't blame the refs though, they are only obeying orders. What's frustrating is the lack of consistency. Yaya Toure did the same thing as what Cisse did not once, but twice to Mata and got away scot-free. The so called "bigger clubs" tend to get away with these sort of things more IMO.
That's what I'm trying to say in the OP District. I know technically the refs are correct, but the system and it's laws are flawed. It unfairly unbalances games for human mistakes. What Zidane did in the WC Final 2006 was clearly wrong, but losing players in important matches over handbags and minor coming togethers is not fair to the paying fan.
No wonder the referee's dont get the respect they want. Their decision making is so inconstent, and sometimes so obviously wrong. Cisse knew the rules, and has been punished for a stupid mistake. But it has cost us big time today.
After todays game I am beginning to lose faith in the people who run the game,a few years ago most people who watched the game would know what was handball,what was off side,what was a dangerous tackle,what was deliberate and what wasnt.But now theres not a single person or referee who can tell you for certain what constitutes any of these decisions.The officials all have there very own ideas which vary from one week to another and all change like the wind.This used to be a simple but enjoyable sport to watch but not now.No wonder players,fans and pundits alike get frustrated.The sport is on a slippery slide downwards.
Frankly, you know that something is seriously wrong with the rules of the game when blatant diving in order to win a penalty and/or have your opponent sent off is dismissed as mere "simulation". It's cheating. Nothing less. There is much talk of introducing goal-line technology. There is so much money in the game now - and consequently so much at stake - that perhaps the authorities ought to go the whole hog and bring in technology elsewhere. Look at rugby union. An important decision such as try or no try is now referred to video technology and a panel of experts in the higher echelons of the stadium. With all the money circulating in football, especially the Premier League - and certainly much, much more than is in rugby union - why the hell not introduce more officials to pore over key decisions and communicate a better version of the truth to the referee? I can't see it holding play up too much and unnecessarily. If this simulation malarky subsequently is rewarded with a yellow card - or, better still, a red - it will soon be stamped out. Fewer unpunished cheats. Fewer disputed goals. Fewer unfair bookings and dismissals. I see no reason why this might detract responsibility from the referee. Hell, you could make it that the technology panel are only called upon at the ref's discretion. Just like rugger. It seems incredible that rugby union, ostensibly still very much the minority sport here, should lead the way with such provisions. Do it FA, do it now.
Well said uber, but like you say the FA and FIFA are reluctant to change for the simple reason, that unless it's their baby, they do not want to be seen to be doffing their caps to what they consider minority sports.
giving red cards for 'handbags' is a bloody disgrace week in week out we have games ruined and decided by the FA's nancy boy scoutmasters that are refereeing games i hate the corrupt spinelesss slaphead masons that are running football and the strutting martinets they employ with a whistle and a little notebook nonces the lot of them mincing around enforcing their pathetic little rules
Totally agree with you Rebel. It's ruining the game sending off players for something like that. That was not violent conduct but a stupid reaction to a bad tackle that the referee should have responded to like Adel and Barton did - told Cisse to calm down, tell him him I`am the Ref and at very most give a yellow card.
It's getting pathetic to be honest, imagine if players like Roy Keane, Viera, Wise etc were playing in this day and age, they'd be sent off every ****ing game just for putting in a great tackle that may look a bit dangerous. I didn't think Cisse deserved the red card, he shouldn't of done what he did but if someone goes in like that on you after you've broke your leg twice in the past you'd be a bit pissed off
I understand people's frustration at the inconsistency of ref's but this was a clear red. You just can't put your hands around another player's throat. For me, this is the player's fault and Cissé has admitted it himself.
Ive just seen the Man City "penalty", he runs past the defender who is 2 feet away from him and then kicks the defender and falls over and the ref gives it! Shocking decision, the attacker cheated prospered and will not be punished by the FA which means they will carry on doing it.