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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by 1MoreAgain, Dec 16, 2021.

  1. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    Hodler 425 Newbury
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  2. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    What a ride by Oisin on not so sleepy
    11 years old and led all the way
    Superb
     
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  3. SW3 Chelsea Tiger

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    Lets be honest guys I’ve been doing poorly the past few weeks. We had a lovely run for a good 2 months with over 100 points profit but despite decent weekends the mid week hasn’t been fruitful and mostly losing days.

    One of the reasons I do better at weekends and big meets (in general) is simple. Most horses are exposed in the bigger meets so you usually get true runs (if things don’t go wrong which they often do) - In the mid week, in lower classes, it’s harder to gauge. Unless you have info you are relying on form and in the lower classes that simply doesn’t stack up as well as the higher grade racing. It’s a lot easier to find a 70 rated horse that has the ability to go to 110 than finding finding horses at 110 who will go up to 120 for example. That unexposed nature makes it a harder task. Aswell there are 1000’s of class 6-2 horses (about 14,000 in the UK in training) whereas there’s probably only around 1000 group horses (estimate) This makes a mammoth task more manageable and goes to explain why we will tend to do better in the higher grade racing.

    With that said, we haven’t come this far by not being able to find some belters on a Wednesday night on the all weather at Kempton in a low grade breeze up. More time, more effort and more tracker work will go into our research as a team and with the national hunt season fast approaching we will look to hit the ground running so to speak.

    Guys, if you don’t want to be here anymore, need to cancel for any reason - that’s fine just message me and cancel - there's no hard feelings at all - I appreciate anyone that has joined and tried the service. You are all welcome to rejoin anytime and I completely understand that gambling on horses isn’t everyone's number one priority, as it should not be. Life and family comes first and thats respected and reciprocated both ways. Always welcome to rejoin in future etc…!!

    Enough rambling these are tomorrow's Beverley tips. I will probably be doing a few more midweek as I will be doing more study and tracker work so please keep stakes small and as advised midweek.

    TIPS

    2.15 BEVERLEY - STAR START 2/1 - 1 point win

    I think the 2/1 is fair for STAR START but I don’t think this will be as easy as it looks on paper for the favorite, he steps up in class with a bit to prove after losing at 2/5 LTO. Before that the Menzies horse won by 15 lengths and looked progressive. He was beaten by Rory the Cat who ran well yesterday which is a good validation of form but theres definitely a few dangers to consider here. WESTERN BEAT being the most notable at 7/1 for Easterby.

    3.35 BEVERLEY - ZIGGY'S CONDOR 11/8 - 1 point win

    A very nice debut in a class 4 then arguably an even better performance at York when second in the yearling stakes. The step up in class to class 2 LTO out at York saw him well held when only 3rd, PILGRIM reversed the York form and the ceiling for now seemed hit. This is a class 5 but also a drop to 5 furlongs so he needs a good start and the ability to handle the trip whilst carrying top weight.

    LONGSHOTS

    5.10 BEVERLEY - UGO GREGORY 7/1 - 3 paid - 0.5 point EW

    Won at C&D four times. We have backed him loads and owes us little but whenever he’s an EW price here at Beverley expect him to front run and be involved at the finish. This class he tends to struggle at but he has done so before here at Beverley.

    5.45 BEVERLEY - PREMIERSHIP 13/2 - 4 paid - 0.5 EW

    I do track RIBKANA but forms gone a bit off the boil so will wait for another day. Instead PREMIERSHIP has plenty going for him tomorrow and boasts solid form. Back down to the mile trip for his first ever run at Beverley. Nice EW price.

    Good luck all
    Nate
     
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  4. SW3 Chelsea Tiger

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Two singles for Perth today not much else I fancy there. Taking on the favourites in both races with these two. REDCAR and KEMPTON I’ll have a look through now. Still time to place the Golf Ryder cup bets if not already done so. Cheers guys have a nice day. Hopefully more profits today. 


2.20 PERTH - STADIUM TALK 9/4 - 1 point win

    Looks a tough race this in fairness as the top 3 in the market are solid and them Gordon Elliott sends her a recent Irish winner in GAYE WINNIE who is probably the overpriced horse in the line up at 6/1. Two non runners leave this race with only 5 left in it now but I would of thought STADIUM TALK would of been the outright fav here over EL ELEFANTE. She is obviously a decent horse but STADIUM TALKS last run was impressive winning by 15 lengths in a field of 12. Seems to be in top shape at the moment
    and back out after a few weeks rest.

    4.40 PERTH - BORN FAMOUS 11/4 - 1 point win

Almost tempted to do 2 points here in all honesty now value has came but all good handicap runs must come to an end at some point… BORN FAMOUS goes for 7 in a row his mark is now at 130. He’s running off a massive weight today and gives it all round to his rivals including the now favourite WASDELL DUNDALK who attempts for a hatrick of his own. BORN FAMOUS won his last two by skin off his teeth. Harry Cobden rides again for the third time and I would of left it as it was 15/8 last night… at 11/4 the value is there now for a bet but I think it’s a massive ask for any horse to go from a rating in the 90’s to 130 and just keep winning. This is actually a drop in class but the sharks will be circling today and it will need another big effort from BORN FAMOUS to get the 7 timer recorded…
     
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  5. SW3 Chelsea Tiger

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    Kempton evening meeting will be posted later.

    3.15 REDCAR - ALACRITY - 7/1 - 0.5 EW

    WARNING this is an unraced horse… bet at your own risk as shouldn’t be really tipping them. I try and avoid doing so but one of the members asked for Redcar tips.. I couldn't find many but ended up putting this one into the tracker and will be having a small go myself. Why? Full half sister to ALBAFLORA who has raced and placed at group 1. There's a few with promise in this race INVOLVEMENT is very nicely bred and the favourite has already shown hes more than capable. There's only two places paid, so small bets for this newcomer and stick it in the tracker for the future.

    3.50 REDCAR - JUMEIRA VISION 11/1 - 3 paid - 1 point EW

    DOOM is obviously well respected by the Haggas camp. He could be considered the absolute banker of the day at 5/6 but after losing when 1/25 at Ripon he picked up the unwanted tag and record as the lowest price losing favourite in 30 odd years or something ridiculous. I tipped it on the free group on facebook as a NAP EW at 1/25 in a 2 horse race and everyone went a bit mental when it lost as they thought it was a serious post!! Anyway DOOM should be winning this and probably still represents good value at 5/6. Maybe one for your multis today?

    For me I’m betting on JUMEIRA VISION who has drifted out 11/1. New trainer, gelded and down in class after not being disgraced on debut. Obviously Gosden isn’t going to sell all his best prospects but looking closer at this card it looks like this is the reason Hollie Doyle is travelling to Redcar today. She has two rides and although the other one is the favourite for Owen Burrows, I would imagine it’s Archie Watson that's got her in for this one and I believe it’s his only runner on the card…
     
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  6. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    Watching the 410 at at cloud and the commentator just said shalromy is a great shout 16/1

    fuxkjng get in
     
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    Superb ride by saffy osbourne on Tregony in the last
    Held off Buick
    Outstanding
     
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    IMO she's better than Hollie Doyle... just needs the rides she gets..
     
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  9. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    Gone for an outsider in the Arc
    I think it’s wide open this race
     
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  10. rovertiger

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    I've done an outsider e.w. Chazz.
    Good luck.
     
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  11. TIGERSCAVE

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    Ive backed Through Seven Seas.. the Japs are winning everything racing...
     
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  12. Chazz Rheinhold

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    Favourite won easily <laugh>
     
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    Not daft them bookies.
     
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    Morning all not much in the tracker today.. low class racing… low stakes bets there's better racing towards the end of the week. Here’s some for Ayr. Sedgefield and Southwell will be posted by 11.30 am latest.

    1.42 AYR - HALE END 10/3 - 1 point win

    Tough one to pick in this as we have been trying to land on TELE RED in recent weeks who is back down in class today and should run well. We need to beat the form horse HORTZADAR who is too short for a bet here today in my opinion but remains the one to beat. I’ve been keeping a close eye on HALE END who looks to be due a win and is running consistently well at this level. Good value at 10/3 with 365. Quite a competitive handicap for a class 5.

    2.47 AYR - STAR START 5/2 - 1 point win

    No penalty for STAR START here so a follow up could be on the cards after winning nicely for us at Beverley a week ago. Plenty of likeable types in this race AYR POET has won here about 50 times lol but I think the price reflects his chance today.

    LONGSHOT

    4.32 AYR - MONHAMMER 17/2 - 1 point EW - 4 paid sky

    Placed in nearly 50% of his races and was beaten favourite, only managed 4th but had genuine excuses when caught up in traffic LTO. Similar terms for this race - no idea how he’s been pushed up a 1lb for finishing 4th by the handicapper but still he’s double in price from last week and must be worth a small EW.

    GOOD LUCK GUYS
     
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    I can’t find much at Southwell will look for WOLVES later.

    3.10 SEDGEFIELD - TUPELO MISSISSIPPI 11/4 1 point win.

    Quite a frustrating horse to follow and it would be easy to just go with the short price fav LATINO FLING here, she’s going to be a tough nut to crack only 1lb up for her recent win. TUPELO MISSISSIPPI has bags of talent and has recently had a wind op. After a close second LTO out at this level, I’m hoping it can bring out the improvement needed to get himself into the winners enclosure for the first time in a few years. This rates his best opportunity in my opinion.

    4.50 SEDGEFIELD - HYPERSONIC MISSILE 5/4 - 1 point win

    McConnell brings this one over from Ireland with Ben Harvey on board and a 3lb claim. He was second to one of Mullins prospects st Sligo and ran a cracking race on the flat at Galway amongst 14 runners on heavy ground. Definitely the one to beat.

    LONGSHOT

    3.45 SEDGEFIELD - REST AND BE THANKFUL 8/1 - 1 point EW

    Makes debut for new yard after leaving the Menzies outfit. Worth chancing at this price but needs to get back to old form. A 3rd place most recently at Kelso, doesn’t tell the full story, he was nowhere near the winner. Last won in June at Market Rasen in a class five. This price represents his chance but I’m hoping he can hit the ground running for his new yard.
     
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    Catterick 1520 Ribble Radiant. Won a class 3 7f at Beverly first time out. Drops into Class 5 7f.
     
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    NOTTS:
    3.42 Nottingham - SPOOF 11/4 - 1 point win
    5.12 Nottingham - NAVARRE EXPRESS 2/1 - 1 point win

    CATTERICK:
    3:20 Catterick - RIBBLE RADIANT 11/10 - 1 point win.
    3.50 Catterick - CHARGED UP 11/4 - 1 point win
    5.29 Catterick - VALLEY OF FLOWERS 6/1 EW - 1 point EW

    BANGOR:
    2.35 Bangor - PITTSBURG 4/1 - 1 point win
    4.05 Bangor - OLIVERS TRAVELS 7/2 - 1 point win

    Total points suggested 7.
     
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    VIP GOLF - starts today at 1pm.

    8-12 places paid on Sky. All tips are 1 point EW

    Emalliano Grillo 22/1
    Garrick Higgo 35/1
    Sam Ryder 40/1
    Chad Ramey 80/1
    Dylan Fritelli 400/1
    Will Gordon 90/1

    Good luck if following if you don’t like the golf then don’t follow. I enjoy following and watching personally - cheers

    Have a nice day everyone ❤️
     
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    Couple more from me I will have a look at Chelmsford later this afternoon.

    4.35 WARWICK - MINELLA RESCUE 6/4 - 1 point win

    I will be watching Youlneverwalkalone with interest for Fergal O brien but I can’t see him winning. MINELLA RESCUE is consistent and arrives off the back of a win but must be able to cope with a 5lb penalty. I think the main danger is OUT OUT who comes from a family of winners.

    LONGSHOTS
    2.10 LINGFIELD - SPARKED 11/2 - 1 point EW - 4 paid sky
    3.45 LINGFIELD - LABIQA 13/2 - 1 point EW - 4 paid

    LABIQA is turned out quickly after a second place at Kempton last week. This race is harder but the price is right to try him at 13/2 EW.

    Alec Voikhansky somehow still has his 5lb claim but he will not for long. He maintains the partnership with SPARKED today who is a C&D winner that looks capable of more is shes able to translate that ability back on to the all weather.

    Good luck all
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    Morning guys hope everyone is well. Here’s a few for Ascot… Running a bit behind will check out the other meetings and try have anything else sent over by 1pm latest.

    2.12 - KIMNKATE - 5/1 - 4 paid 365 - 1 point EW

    I’m only taking this bet as I can get 4 paid EW at 5/1 which will see us just about breakeven if unable to get the win. I’m going against my usual tactic in these amateur jockey races ( bet on the best amateur jockey regardless of horse - that accolade here in my opinion would go to Jack Callan who is on board CONQUISTADOR at 10/1 who admittedly is a great price) However with that said I really like KIMNKATE she is a gutsy little animal who has been a completley different proposition since blinkered. Should go close in the competitive race.

    3.57 - ASCOT - NAQEEB 15/8 - 1 point win

    I’ve been trying to land on Chesspiece and I still rate him highly but NAQEEB looks out of the ordinary. This is a proper race and will produce some group winning horses, I’ve gone with the favourite as I want a bet in this race for interest more than anything else but by god it’s a competitive one and not one to go mad over. Middle Earth is in this aswell for the Gosdens and drops down in class after a fair effort in the Ledger, probably the main danger to our selection here.

    5.05 - ROHAAN 11/4 - 1 point win - YASSER - 18/1 - 5 paid

    At top form nothing in this line up can match ROHAAN this is a big step down in class to what he’s done throughout his career and although his form has not been great this is his chance to get back to winning ways. He will not have an easier assignment this year. It’s a group 1 horse running in a class 2 race but that doesn’t make this a procession as there's 18 runners and plenty of things that could and may go wrong out of the horses control….

    5 places paid here so we will take a small 0.5 EW saver on YASSER who is improving quickly. Big step up today for the horse, needs to have a good start, notoriously poor out of the gates but will benefit from his rider's 5lb claim as he’s already right near the basement in terms of weights. ROHAAN carries nearly 2 stone more than YASSER for example. I do track KINGS LYNN but left that one today, good chance but price a bit short for the EW so YASSER at 18/1 seems the one to side with hopefully.

    GOOD LUCK GUYS
     
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