Big Sam set up

Well ta for everything Sam.

 

No big offence committed other than saying that the third party ownership could be got around, if he had added maybe if the agent plays it right, and been in the clear. They are now taking the moral high ground by claiming he "appeared" to be more interested in taking the consultancy work more than sorting England out which did not come over to me. There are more managers and international coaches in the firing line but they landed the big one here.

The only man who would have come through those discussions without blemish would be the Dalai Lama. He would have laughed at everything.

 

Short and sweet but Victorian reasoning used to achieve it.

 

Come on then Mr Short - get him signed up

 

Moyes has just said here Sam you can have this pile of ****e back again i'me off mate.

 

Moyes has just signed a 4 year contract. He won't walk and he won't be sacked... Yet.

 

He will go down in history as statistically the most successful England manager of all time with a 100% win record..

 

What is with the England national team and dodgy fuking managers?

 

Well the whole situation makes me even more bitter about him leaving and the FA dragging their heels etc.

For him to do this a week after getting the job is criminal IMO, his dream job, he put in jeopardy for a bit of cash on the side.

That said, this is probably just the tip of the iceberg and plenty more to come, quite possibly he was up to no good when he was with us prompting the whole set up.

 

Aye and didn't lose to Norway or Iceland either!

 

https://t.co/NQALVrPFRk

 

I think you hit the nail on the head with this one....lol!

 

So, has anyone heard any rumours who the next lot of premiership managers are who have taken a bung?

 

Sam has been a marked man by the press for a number of years now, I would imagine if the England job didn't happen and he was still with us, this sting would have still happened.

 

If there is that much money involved in the game just highlights how poor we are ,Moyes cannot even buy a win

 

Its got to involve some of our ex managers when you look at some of the s*ite we have signed

EDIT : thought I had better remove some of this just in case I am correct

 

Cardiff City football club launched an investigation into a player transfer after auditors discovered evidence of unexplained payments, The Daily Telegraph has learnt.

A loan deal involving Cardiff and West Ham United, who were managed by Sam Allardyce at the time, was examined after questions were raised over fees relating to the deal.

An agent is understood to have told the club that a payment had been agreed with Allardyce over the loan of Ravel Morrison, who moved to the Welsh club from West Ham in 2014.

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The agent involved is understood to be Pino Pagliara, who is banned from conducting transfers and often uses an intermediary to conduct his transfer business. The allegations prompted Cardiff to launch an investigation.

The club, however, failed to put the allegation to Allardyce. Neither the police nor the FA was notified. Cardiff City have confirmed the investigation. Their earlier failure to report it to the FA was an apparent breach of FA rules.

A spokesman for the club said: “Mr Pagliara was not paid by the club. We investigated the matter thoroughly.”

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Ravel Morrison, left, in his West Ham playing days when Sam Allardyce, centre, was manager. The two were allegedly involved in a row over agents CREDIT: REX FEATURES
The FA is now likely to open a separate investigation into Cardiff’s failure to report and Allardyce will inevitably find himself part of yet another investigation by the sport’s ruling body. The allegations were put to Allardyce and the FA on Monday but so far both have yet to respond.

Morrison was previously involved in an alleged row with Allardyce over agents, after the former West Ham manager reportedly put pressure on him to sign up with Mark Curtis, who is Allardyce’s own representative.

When the player refused to do so, he was dropped from the team, according to insiders. Cardiff City appear to have infringed the FA regulations by failing to report that it was dealing with an allegation.

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The rules of the FA state that clubs “shall immediately report to the Association any incident, facts or matters which may constitute misconduct”. Multiple sources have told the Telegraph that the intermediary involved in the loan deal for Morrison was Mr Pagliara, an unlicensed agent who was banned from football for five years in 2005 for match-fixing.

A source with knowledge of Cardiff City’s investigation told this newspaper that a club official was tasked with investigating the deal for Morrison after questions were raised about the financial arrangements for the transfer.

Following a conversation between the official and Mr Pagliara, Cardiff City’s board was informed about the claim relating to Allardyce.

A more thorough internal inquiry was ordered, with an external company brought in to investigate. A source told the Telegraph that the external investigators could not find any evidence of the payment being made to Allardyce, or of any payment being made directly to Mr Pagliara, and the club wound up the inquiry.

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Pino Pagliara CREDIT: TELEGRAPH
A spokesman for Cardiff City said: “Mr Pagliara was not paid by the club. We investigated the matter thoroughly.” Allardyce has previously denied ever taking bribes for player transfers. He has so far failed to respond to questions from The Daily Telegraph.

Mr Pagliara said last night: “I never paid any payment to Sam Allardyce.” He also denied that he had told Cardiff City he had paid Allardyce. Morrison’s relationship with West Ham was already strained by the time he was loaned to Cardiff.

In 2013 it was alleged that the former Manchester United youth player, who had signed for West Ham the previous year, had fallen out with Allardyce after being put under pressure to drop his agent and instead sign as a client of Mr Curtis.

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It is understood that Morrison had asked for a pay rise towards the end of 2013, and was asked to attend a meeting with Allardyce and Mr Curtis at which he was told that he would be given an enhanced new contract if he signed with Mr Curtis.

When Morrison refused, he was dropped from the team and later loaned out to QPR. Both Mr Curtis and Allardyce denied putting pressure on Morrison when allegations first surfaced in 2013. Mr Curtis described the claims as “nonsense” and Allardyce said at the time: “There’s no truth in the fact that I have sat with Ravel Morrison and tried to press him into signing anything with any agent, never mind mine.” Morrison, 23, who now plays for the Italian club Lazio, was unavailable for comment.

 

Said it since the story broke that I reckon the Kone transfer reeks of something similar.

Kone's agent is the McKay fella (I think). His transfer was on and off so many times, was it a loan, permanent no one knew. Then all of a sudden after 2 weeks of nothing, he's signing on a permanent with an alleged wage increase verbally agreed.

Sam leaves, and all of a sudden he's unsettled/wants away etc etc. (I'm not putting that just down to Sam leaving). What else has gone on for Kone to be in Liverpool having handed in a transfer request. Who has manoeuvred this? My guess is the agent, gets a cut of the transfer fee or the contract, say 10%, probably worth couple of million.

Who's Kone's agent liked heavily with? Big Sam. Back handers galore.

 

I'm sure the Telegraph have more dirt to divulge and lots more papers to sell. I just hope that you are wrong but the signs are not good.

 

The telegraph have gone in big style.

Barsley manager filmed taking £5000 bung - been suspended by the club.
Jimmy Floyd Hasselbank & Massimo Cellino as well.

Ohh dear, it's happening.