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Congerton: Bringing through quality, home-grown players

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  1. Commachio

    Commachio Rambo 2021

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    A few things that don't quite add up here.

    Last season we had the Watmore fiasco, maybe this season he'll get his chance, we'll see/

    Then Congerton says.

    And the club’s sporting director, Lee Congerton, says bringing through quality, home-grown players is “very important” to the club.


    Then we have.

    “We have brought in youngsters from further afield, including New Zealand and Sweden, but recruiting and developing players from within the North East region is key for us.

    Also

    Meanwhile, highly-rated George Brady has also joined the development squad from Chelsea.



    But the worrying part.

    Seven young players were released at the end of the season: Ryan Ellison, Ross Colquhoun, Jassem Sukar, Tom McNamee, Peter Burke, Joel Dixon and Andrew Cartwright.

    A statement added: “The club wishes them the very best of luck in their future careers.”



    What is up at the AOL, how, why is there such low numbers make it?


    read the full story.

    http://www.sunderlandecho.com/sport...me-grown-players-key-for-sunderland-1-7336996
     
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  2. Brian Storm

    Brian Storm Well-Known Member

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    Most inspiring young footballers never make it anywhere near to having a football career. The academy has also been badly ran for years, even though we make changes it will take years to see results. That's why we've brought in players like Watmore, Ba and Brady who joined at the 3/4 stage of development.
     
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    Don`t know quite what to make of that tbh <confused>
    Unless by `home grown` he means through our own academy rather than local lads.

    We seem to take on a lot of youngsters who don`t make it and are released later. Either the scouts are useless or, they`re bringing in gooduns and McNamee`s useless, or a combination of both.

    We seem to have a hell of a turnover though.
     
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  4. Sidthemackem

    Sidthemackem Newcastle United 0-1 Cambridge United
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    The Academy's only produced Colback and Henderson, hasn't it? Not a huge return so far from the "home-grown" lot...
     
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    Yep. The club were more effective at introducing players to the first team via the youth system when we didn't have the academy
     
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  6. Brian Storm

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    Leadbitter, Waghorn and Pickford
     
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  7. Sidthemackem

    Sidthemackem Newcastle United 0-1 Cambridge United
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    Still not a lot since it's been there, what? 15 years?
     
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  8. Brian Storm

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    Of course not mate but it's all about how you look it. Looking at the bigger, it's produced 26m pounds in transfer fees which will have paid it off and covered it's costs, It's not like it loses us money, it's in a great position to learn from mistakes and push on. We may already be much closer as these things take a long time to fruit once you start addressing those problems. We've a very talented u18 and u21 squads who play great football. Just look at our progress they've made, the U21s in particular who's improvement year on year is truly dramatic, 12/13 15th best in the country, 13/14 8th best in the country, 14/15 4th best in the country where they were 2 points off finishing 2nd and just 6 points, that's two wins off being the best youth team in the country. Our talent pool is undeniably improving like an express train, but the time is upon us where we're at the next cross road where we need to learn from previous mistakes, we need to handle their next step a lot better than we have in the past. The right loan choices, adequate time training with seniors and good timing on first team integration. But the signs are there that we're coming to point where we're in a position to start producing wave upon wave of professional footballer, if 4 or 5 break the first team over the next 3 years it we be amazing progress. Lot's of profit on players who don't quite make it would be welcome too. I'm optimistic.
     
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  9. Blunham Mackem

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    Our Statto is so knowledgeable!! Who needs the internet?
     
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  10. Brian Storm

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    Ha ha, here's some more stats.

    The Mags U21

    12/13 17th in the country
    13/14 21st in the country
    14/15 18th in the country

    :emoticon-0136-giggl;)
     
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    <laugh> Quality stuff <ok>
     
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  12. Commachio

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    Nowt to do with SAFC academy, but i like this story..well done cr7




    A boy who survived the Indonesian tsunami has described joining Sporting Lisbon's football academy as a "dream come true".

    Martunis, now 17, lived off dried noodles and puddle water for three weeks before he was discovered by rescue teams after the 2004 disaster – and was wearing a Portugal football shirt with Cristiano Ronaldo's name on the back.

    Soon afterwards, he was flown to meet the team, who created a fund to help his family rebuild their home.

    Ronaldo also met Martunis in his native Indonesia, and reportedly financed his education.

    The teenager is now following in the footsteps of his idol by training at Sporting's academy, where he will "live, study and grow as a man and footballer".


     
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    I watch u10's football (my son plays and I coach his team) - looking on various u10's sites there are thousands of these teams in the region - so probably tens of thousands in the country - each have 9 "first team" players plus subs (normally 2 or 3 subs - sometimes more) - that is over a quarter of a million just in that age bracket - if you think that there are teams for most of the same clubs from under 7's up to senior level and ever year in between you are talking millions and millions of kids and young adults trying to make it. less than 0.1% make it at the professional level.

    How many other clubs have an abundance of youngsters coming through? Southampton have more than anyone else recently but very few players from within the area make it at pro level.

    Sad reality nowadays. Wish it was different!
     
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    Until Sky and BT monies disappear from the game, and the mercenaries all bugger off elsewhere, I don't see things improving for our kids any time soon.

    You look at the Italian, German, French and Dutch leagues, they have far more national players than us, give or take a relative handful of foreign players, especially so in the Italian League.

    And you see their national squads benefit from that.

    From the PL clubs point of view, why waste years on kids, most of whom will never make it, when you can buy someone ready-made off the shelf from abroad?
     
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    o where the **** do they come from?

    kicking pineapples round the streets, makes them better footballers than a multli million pound academy?


    bit racist i know, but you get me point.
     
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    Don't matter where the hell they come from. They train them, we buy them. And sod the academy kids.

    They know that out of 50 kids every couple of years, they'll find a jewel in the mud that more than pays for the others.
     
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