I realise its all about qualification but did anyone out there feel the players were actually trying to win? The fact is if we continue to play under Hodgson it will remain boring and we won't win anything because Hodgson has never won anything and never will. Brazil would be a joke unless we learn to pass, some of the passes from Wiltshire Lampard and Gerard were pathetic a school boy could pass better. We relied on the opposition to squander their chances for that result but who wants to watch that sort of football inn Brazil?