Off Topic General Election

I was pleased that UKIP and BNP were well down my list

 

I was 82 SNP, 81 labour and 80 Lib Dem, which surprised me.

 

For some reason UKIP came bottom of my list.

 

I got SNP 67 and Plaid Cymru 66 with Sinn Fein (the last party I would actually vote for) and LibDem at 56. Which would be right.

Basically I don't agree much with any of them. Tories, ukip and bnp bottom of the heap.

 

The Kilted Kiwi - welcome to the fold brother...

 

I think once you take out the Welsh / Scottish part of Plaid and SNP which do not apply to the English of course they have some pretty fair social policies

 

Thanks - I'll drink to that . A glowing endorsement when compared to the absolute sh*** that's normally written about them by politicians, journalists and public alike...

 

To be fair - they are defined by their name and so people forget that they are actually a party with policies and have been running a government for years. They are closer to the left than the right - whereas a few years ago I think they were perhaps a bit further to the right when Labour were "real" in Scotland

 

Historically, they have been very hard to pin down as one way or the other. Starting out life as Social Democrats, it was only during the Billy Wolfe years (1969-1979) that they effectively established themselves as a centre-left party of significant number. As with any party, there have been times of ideological tension, the last being between two internal factions - the Gradualists and the Fundamentalists. The former - which included Alex Salmond, who was actually expelled for his socialist views - wanted a shift left whereas the latter wanted to move away from any right v left argument in order to maintain focus on the goal of Independence. I don't believe that, at any point in their history, they ever leaned right of the middle though.

 

I am Leeds NW..mulholland is the linden incumbent.. And will likely get in again...not the greatest at Westminster but a good bulwark against the Tories

 

SNP 71%, Lib Dems 68%, Plaid Cymru and Labour 64% each. When I lived in the UK, I did vote Lib Dem on the (probably incorrect) assumption that it was a new party and were more likely to have policies aimed at my age group. If I move back, I'll try and make a more informed choice.

 

There have been some suggestions that this election could see the lowest turnout of voters on record. It seems that some are suffering from "voter fatigue". The result of the Unite trade union ballot might support this view, as the people who voted consisted of just 12% of the members.

 

As we have already seen Frenchie it is non voters who decide elections, and I agree that voter fatigue may now be an important factor. Opinion polling simply does not measure this and a low turnout often favours smaller parties - whose supporters are normally more motivated. So, I would say to all Tories, don't bother - just stay at home and put your feet up, there are better ways of spending the day.

 

The extremely low turnout for the unite leadership election is more likely due to the excessive meddling in politics by McCluskey. They would prefer their leader to concentrate on union matters. There seems some dodgy goings on in suspending McCluskey's rival in a very close election.

 

Interesting blog exposing Robinson's politics.....


https://www.thecanary.co/2017/04/21...yn-bias-far-daily-mail-journalist-tells-step/

 

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This for me sums it up nicely... .and i have repeatedly said I would pay a few pounds more every month so we can have all the good things that enhances our society...

 

We wouldn't have to pay more if we got rid of the abomination that is Trident - and HS2 - and stopped 'high end' tax evasion...

 

Offers a glimmer of hope...

 

A city millionaire comes to the rescue.