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Off Topic Muslims - a fresh debate.

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Billy Death, Jun 16, 2015.

  1. grandpops

    grandpops Well-Known Member

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    Agreed but the lefty handwringers insist on playing by the rules when the enemy have none. Saddam had no rules either which is how he kept them in check.

    Brutal and inhuman to us but isn`t that what ISIS, Boko Haram et al are?
     
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  2. Commachio

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    Aye mate. His Republican guards would have gone in, and wiped the ****ers out.
     
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  3. grandpops

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    Absolute certainty that.
     
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    The same Republican Guard who are now fighting for ISIS? It is all utter madness, and I agree that massive mistakes have been made by western nations, regardless of intentions.
     
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  5. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    If I could I would spend an hour 'liking' this comment, it's an entire library of argument tied up in a single sentence, great post Pops!
     
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    Another CIA contribution is that many IS generals or strategists were in the Sunni dominated Iraqi Army that was disbanded after the invasion. No money, no pension and highly trained soldiers - recipe for unrest if ever there was one.
     
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  7. Blunham Mackem

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    The Islamic Brotherhood have been around since the start of the last century. This isn't a new problem.

    It's been bubbling up for years and just coming to fruition now.

    Assad was arguably one of the most secure dictators in the Middle East and look at the state he's in now.

    Hussein wouldn't have been any better off. He'd have slaughtered a few thousand but you can't kill an idea with force unless you kill them all.

    I heard some idiot on Radio 4 today say that one way of dealing with enemies is to make them friends. <doh><doh><doh>

    You can't negotiate or bargain with these guys. They're not interested in negotiating with us. They want to kill us or convert us. Either or. There's no middle ground for them.

    There can be no middle ground for us either. We have only two options. Prove their argument wrong and that their version of their God is corrupted and isn't the answer.

    If that doesn't work, wipe them out. All of them.
     
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  8. Heremod

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    We're too soft on Islam, the whole "multiculturalism" experiment has gone tits up so let's nip it in the bud. October revolution failed, this will too so let everybody be.
     
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  9. grandpops

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    Unfortunately I think nothing less than that will do.

    I know Mrs BM is a muslim and does your bacon sarnies. That, on its own is such a heinous blasphemy as to have her beheaded without hesitation.

    A horrible, insane ideology for which I don`t think there`s a cure.

    Have the Ayatollahs and cleric types issued a fatwa against them? I don`t recall reading about it if they have. That would make it the duty of every muslim to kill them. Is that the way it works? If they haven`t, why not?
     
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  10. Billy Death

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    I've dealt with terrorists first hand albeit in a very contained area.
    This Islamist threat is now a worldwide problem & they strike indiscriminately anywhere they feel like.
    They have no fear, they're fighting for what they see as right.
    I agree with Pops on the Bliar & Bush governments - total pair of ****s.
    One was an arse licker, one was a nutjob.
    Make your own minds up which was which.
    I have no answers but I'd turn the middle east over to Israel & give them carte blanche to do what the **** they like.
     
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    British Muslims Condem ISIS after the Murder of 30 British people in Tunisia saying: " These people are not Muslim's, they are deluded murderer's and have no place within Islam. Muslim organisations have been quick to condemn the actions of IS and have called upon a unified response to the 'evil ideology' targeting British Muslims.

    Imam Qari Asim, Head Imam at Makkah Mosque, Leeds, and Senior Editor at ImamsOnline, “Human life is sacred in Islam, and to see a young person from one of our communities tricked into killing others and dying for the sake of this false ISIS ideology is truly heart-breaking. British Muslims have come together to reject this group, and now our voices are beginning to grow louder.

    It is urgent that we expose the truth behind this hateful terrorist group, which wants to abuse our young people and use them for cannon fodder.

    "Recently Imams launched ‘Haqiqah,’ a new online magazine which is helping to lead the digital fightback against ISIS, proving that the group has no claim to our religion”.
     
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  12. Nordic

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    hopefully soon. just deport the ****ing lot of them
     
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  13. Rick O'Shea

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  14. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    Anybody watched the video of Jaysh Al Islam blowing 20 Isis heads off with shotguns?

    I have to confess I enjoyed watching their disgusting heads being blown apart.
     
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  15. Blunham Mackem

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    Saw the headlines about it. Glad they're getting their own sense of justice thrown back at them.

    Wouldn't take any pleasure at watching it though.
     
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  16. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    I didn't think I would either BM.

    Watching the fear in their face as they knelt down to meet their maker was a little therapeutic though, in a weird way.
     
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  17. grandpops

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    Me neither mate.
     
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    grandpops Well-Known Member

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    I can relate to that. I won`t watch it tho` Not for me that stuff.
     
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  19. Jim Campbell

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    Multiculturalism hasn't worked ANYWHERE in the World so the question is WHY are Governments still promoting it?
    Makes you wonder.
     
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  20. Blunham Mackem

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    I don't think they are JC. Multiculturalism was very much of the Blair era, the cover-sheet of their policy of increasing immigration in the belief most immigrants would be left wing voters.

    Post Blair governments are now having to deal with the consequences of that policy.
     
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