Seems even more so now. But we'll never know if he'd off made much difference anyway. (although i think he would).
M'Vila wouldn't have kept us up on his own but Moyes saying "I want to see if there's better value in the market" than M'Vila sums up how clueless he is. There's no way we would have done anything but struggled this season, but under a different manager we may well have struggled less.
We'd be more competent certainly but we'd still be missing that attack minded center mid we needed most.
But we don't know that for sure do we? BSA would have definitely done better in the summer window and then January also and I'm 100% sure that if BSA had stayed we wouldn't be in this position right now.
I like Ndong but paying 13m for him when Mvila was tried tested and available for 5m was just criminal. Could have used that 8m on a forward we badly needed. Just one of Moyes clusterfucks
I think there was more to the M'Vila fiasco than merely us not wanting him anymore. I think there was complications of which we will probably never find out about. I mean, if his acquisition was a simple as just stumping up £5-6 million, why didnt anybody else gazump us whilst we were farting aboot? Instead he continues to hang around in a place where his club didnt really want him and a place where he couldnt wait to get away from. He has since signed a contract rather than walk away for free, if there were other clubs knocking on his door he would have left before signing it.
I do, I know a class above anything else I see it. Think most can see M'Vila was a different class to what we're used to. Bain royally ****ed up by not giving him what he wanted. I don't get your other comment as It doesn't seem to relate to M'Vila, not sure what you mean. For the record Sam has a rocky rep with transfers, to just assume he'd do well because of that one january window would be daft. The bloke has signed more flops than enough in this time. The Sam illusion is something I don't understand. People seem to judge Sam on 6 months with us rather than his whole career. Not even the 6 months with us, the 6 wins he had with us. We were awfull in most part. Mr ****ing bore draw. But then, he didn't have time or budget to turn a ****e outfit into a good one in an instant either.
My point was directed at an earlier comment re: Sam being the missing link as opposed to M'Vila. And I reckon if we had kept hold of him we wouldn't be in the ****e like we are now. He'd have had 2 windows plus all of pre season to whip the useless twats into shape. Agreed M'Vila would have made a massive difference but we'll never know the truth about that one. Was it Baine? was the player being gready? parent club being greedy, all of the afore mentioned? we'll never know mate and it's immaterial, we're ****e regardless of which way you toss it up.
I didn't say that mate, no wonder you lost me there. We lost M'Vila at boardroom level. No doubt in my mind, we had an agreement for christ sake but as they're not legally binding in this country(as I said at the time) there was never anything stopping him accepting a better offer. That better offer came and the financial powers that be(Short and Bain, the money men) wouldn't match it. It's not something that the manager could have made a difference from. I think any manager would accept more investment and a classy player. Don't believe for a second that Moyes is responsible for M'Vila not being here. He simply doesn't control the budget or have final say on transfers. His power extends to a request for players. Putting the deals together and whether or not signing said players is possible is nothing to do with the manager, at any club.
