Not for me. Two wrong, one right. As per my reasons above, I do think our one was a pen, just probably not for the movement people are talking about.
I would guess they can't give pen for first then dive for 2nd, becuase effectively the ref stopped play after the first incident. So the 'dive' happened when the ball was 'dead' ? Having watched it again, I am still certain the ball goes out of play from the Burnley corner leading up to their penalty. Mike Dean can expect players flinging themselves to the ground in the box at corners in any upcoming games he refs now
He clips him, he loses his balance and goes down with a swan, pen. So many of those this season, so many without any of the fan-fair as well.
Can't agree because not all contact should be a foul and as you said yourself about the one against us "Unless we're suddenly cutting any contact out of the game, there's no way that's a penalty in a million years". There was initial contact it's true but McQueen really went for it and to be honest when you see it replayed it's a bit embarrassing.
I take your point, but he was nudged off balance whilst driving through on goal at speed. It was a foul. Their guy was blocked off physically by Tadic, but not fouled. It's a very mild distinction, but a distinction (for me) it is. Their player vs McQueen wasn't getting to the ball, he was beaten. Tadic was standing his ground.
Well at least we can both agree that the Tadic one wasn't. In fact I would go further and say it was a shockingly poor decision, Dean seemed to be trying to live up to his reputation. Thankfully it didn't affect the result but the first decision probably did.
I know what you mean on the McQueen one. His run is definitely interrupted by the initial contact. That knocks his balance and prevents him from getting in a shot or a cross. It kind of goes back to whether you believe a player has to go down to legitimise a foul
Back to Sam ... Spot my favourite typo (OWS) "Upon entering the action McQueen was given a rousing reception from the St Mary’s faithful, while the youngster added that he was well supported by his teammate son the pitch too." So at least some of the players swamped the pitch with offspring. No wonder we looked so good
My view on our penalty...McQueen was clipped...which caused him to catch his toes in the ground....so a penalty. However, his swallow dive could have ended up cancelling out the penalty. It didn't but he needs to watch that. Their penalty....not in a million years. Their penalty that got away...VVD did it deliberately, cynically to fool the ref, so a penalty.....I can see why the ref didn't give it as Virgil's back was turned. Looks bad on slo-mo. It looks practiced and that makes me wonder if Virgil does that a lot, but this one just looked more obvious.
I thought McQueen was clipped fair and square. Anyway he could have given two penalties to them and none to us, we'd have still won.
Nonsense,happened right in front of me and definite penalty,I've seen the slow motion replays all from a different angle and it does look different.Proves to me how different it can look after the event,apparently it can even look embarrassing to some.
https://southamptonfc.com/news/2016-10-17/video-matchday-uncovered-southampton-burnley?lightbox=true The Boufal bit is fairly near the start. after 1 min.