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there is of course an answer to population control

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They been feeding you Soylent Green with your steroids?

 

its one of the many in a big pile of dvds to re watch

and dont get me started on yesterdays nonsense

 

The new Tom Hanks movie "inferno" coming out this weekend is all about over population.

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Inferno

 

I didn't realise your question envisaging population control by lowering the death rate, was a serious one.

Contraception programmes must be part of the solution particularly in third world countries. Bring pressure to bear on religious faiths that decry contraception (they're only trying to extend their flock anyway). If the population increases chronically in the UK, then consider limiting cash benefits to the first two or perhaps three children of each family. Other benefits, health, school, meals, etc would be available to all children but I don't see why the taxpayer should fund large families if there's overpopulation.

Depressing report today by the WWF on what human activity is doing to wildlife worldwide:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-37775622

 

I was just interested in the Malthus stuff. Both methods work, but making people wealthier, healthier and better education, and allowing women to make choices, is what has brought birth rates down where this has happened. And is rather more humane.

Benefits are already capped, no matter how many kids you have. £26k pa is the maximum any family can get from all forms of benefits added together.

Let's start with Northern Ireland on the religious thing, with their archaic laws on abortion.

Shame about the animals and plants, but it's been the same everywhere man has migrated to, going back thousands of years. We turn up and the big animals disappear in pretty short order. The maoris wiped out the giant birds of New Zealand in 200 years. We hunt the big stuff, the little stuff is dealt with by our constant companions, dogs, cats and rats. It's a miracle any elephants are still around.

 

26.000 a year for doing nothing and maybe having a cash job on the side dosent sound too bad

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but look at all the meat stan

 

I'll have a leg please Kiwi.

Did the injection do any good?

 

I have to wonder whether your blasé attitude to the environment is for real or just your usual prodding.
We need the rainforests and the bees.
If we continue to build green areas we will destroy the earth and ourselves many many thousands of years sooner than we should.
Given enough time man will be able to move to other planets as this one becomes too overcrowded and lacking in recourses.
We need to buy ourselves time by looking after the planet.

 

In another life, I think you must have been a Victorian Big Game hunter! You have the right attitude

 

My blasé attitude is a self protection technique. It's a problem I don't think we have even scratched the surface of and I see no viable way forward unless we get some truly startling and cheap scientific leaps forward very very soon. If we can't stop killing each other over religion, what chance have we got with the massive acts of global, collective self denial needed to make a real difference to the environment? It requires huge international collaboration at a time when the world seems to be getting more fragmented and divided. And I get a bit wound up by highlighting of problems like population density and the environment without any solutions being put forward, even daft ones. And in that spirit my only idea is to get rid of humans, we are the problem. But of course I don't really want that to happen.

Although I do genuinely believe that every species is doomed to extinction, or at best evolution into something else. The planet will recover from whatever indignities we heap upon it after we are gone. We may not have enough time to evolve, after all, all of the great things we have achieved, as well as the damage we have inflicted, has happened in a tiny gap between Ice Ages, themselves incredibly brief events in the history of the planet.

In short, some things are too big even for a bigheaded know all like me to grapple with. So I prefer to ignore them.

 

Nah, the one time I was on a grouse (or was it pheasant?) shoot I didn't enjoy it at all. I really can't see the pleasure of hunting for so called 'sport'. See my response to Col for my feelings on the environment.

 

So the GDP figures were good news today. Nissan are staying and bloke on American TV said People want to work with the UK.
Even the 'remoaners' haven't got much to say!
Still a long way to go but all the doom and gloom mongers seem to be disappearing.

 

i dont think we will ever know stan
the specialist has taken me off the sevredol/tramadol/diclofenic sodium
but he has left me on the gabapentin which is a nerve blocker
so when i go to see him on the 11th nov there will be nothing to tell him
the pill he has left me on is telling the brain there is no pain so not sure how we tell if the steriods are doing anything

 

Yes, Nissan are staying for the time being after being given some 'assurances' by our government - what could that mean?

The GDP figures were down, but better than expected - not sure if that that's good or bad news.

Fat bloke down the pub said we're all ****ed - what do the 'happy clapper' Brexiters have to say about that?

Oh, and we haven't actually left yet.

 

They would say all the doom and gloom gang that were wrong about the collapse of the economy should eat some humble pie and admit they were wrong.

 

GDP is down and we're supposed to celebrate that it wasn't as bad as we thought it might be, thanks to Jason Bourne.

Oh, and we haven't left yet.

 

QT should be good - Ken Loach.

 

Growth is growth. We were told by Mr Osbourne that an apocalyptic crash would ruin us and instead we have had growth. No if's and buts. The 'project fear remoaners' must hate this news which is sad really.
It really does say a lot about people who complain about this news. Jobs in Sunderland are safe. The Economy is stronger than we were told it would be at this time.
Tell your Fat bloke down the pub who said we're all ****ed that he should believe in his country. Or you could tell him that he actually knows F22K All.