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Off Topic Bending the knee

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Woody, Jun 18, 2020.

  1. Woody

    Woody Well-Known Member

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    Is it just me ? I found the charade of wanna look good knee bending when the matches started last night so unnecessary and took it as an insult to peoples intelligence. I don't consider myself racist, and to have this American fad stuck in my face was just extremely irritating and aggressive. If anything it is counter productive as it suggests that as a white man I am to be considered a lesser person, it is itself a racist gesture !
     
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  2. Nads

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    I tried it once needed a chiropractor.
     
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  3. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    I found it embarrassing tbh.

    The PL has become involved in an event that happened in the USA and a political movement that wants the British police force 'defunded' whatever that means.

    I'm all for ending any kind of racism but this has become a hysterical bandwagon which people are jumping on because they daren't be seen to be ignoring it.

    If 'silence is violence' why weren't the PL insisting on this before now.

    I think, if the stadiums were full, there'd have been some booing because some would believe the whole thing is getting way out of hand ...

    ... I don't think I'd have booed but I'm not sure, I don't like being railroaded and that's what this is becoming imo.
     
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  4. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    Is it true this practice originated in Egypt?
     
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    No its not just you, it's pathetic, as is a lot of stuff we have to put up with these days.
     
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  6. Gordon Armstrong

    Gordon Armstrong Just another S.A.F.C. fan
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    There's no way in the world that I'd 'bend the knee' or wear anything related to 'Black lives matter' :emoticon-0145-shake . . . . simply because it's racist :undecided:

    If it was 'all lives matter' it would be completely different, because they do, but to single out black lives, which suggests that white lives don't matter, is highly offensive and racist :emoticon-0101-sadsm
     
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    All the big companies are just to scared not to go along with the crap.
     
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  8. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    Of course it's racist ...

    ... would black players bend the knee for white people <doh>
     
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  9. DH4

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    White people could not ask for something to be done solely for other white people as it would quite rightly be seen as racist. Why it is not racist to ask white people to do something solely for black people I cannot comprehend as it is equally racist. Surely we are meant to look beyond a person's skin colour. I would rather have Josh Maja (who is black) playing centre forward for us than Will Grigg (who is white). Simply on the basis that he is a better player. Skin colour does not come into it.
     
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    Kittenmittons Well-Known Member

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    It is not 'Black lives matter more than white lives'

    It is Black lives matter equally to white lives but are being treated as lesser by some people'
     
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  11. Gordon Armstrong

    Gordon Armstrong Just another S.A.F.C. fan
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    In which case 'all lives matter' would be 100% appropriate, and would not be considered racist by anyone :emoticon-0105-wink:
     
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    If you can't get past the idea that 'black lives matter' isn't your perfect wording for an equal rights platform, it suggests that you don't care as much about semantics as about the core issues.

    Everyone is eager to cry that black people are being treated favourably by this. If you don't speak up when black people are being treated unfavourably, it is not equality that you are bothered about, but keeping black people in a state of inequality
     
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  13. Gordon Armstrong

    Gordon Armstrong Just another S.A.F.C. fan
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    That's simply bollocks, Kitty :p

    <hug>
     
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  14. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    How can you accuse someone, on the flimsiest of evidence, that they're only interested in keeping black people in a state of inequality?

    Seriously, it's as if every who doesn't automatically agree with everything that you, and BLM, say is a rabid racist.
     
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    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    These people are making it all about colour mate.

    Kick out Racism is fine and I'm 100% behind it.

    But I'm not bending my knee for anyone.
     
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  16. Kittenmittons

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    I said why.

    You refuse to accept that BLM is about bringing black people up to the point where they aren't treated as less than equally. The fact that you utterly refuse to engage with this concept because you're more offended by the name says that you care more about that than you do about serious racial inequality. Simple.
     
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  17. Kittenmittons

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    What you're basically saying, smug, is that if they changed the name to stop you being offended, you'd agree with their campaign to stop racial inequality against black people, yes?
     
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  18. Gordon Armstrong

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    If that were the case, I would, Kitty :emoticon-0105-wink:
     
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    So you care more about the name than stopping racial inequality towards black people?
     
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  20. Chunksafc

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    Can we all agree that regardless of skin colour, EVERY colour of skin has / does suffer racial inequality and the goal is to prevent it for everyone
     
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