Carragher, Neville & Referees

started at 7pm inn sky sports 1

A must watch. Excellent program.

 

I've got it on record.

 

Carragher when talking to assistants .... "yeah you cost a team a final last week" ....

 

It's impressive. Should have been shown years ago.

 

Finished. Really, really good. I don't often say this and it'll hurt some people, but.. well done Sky and well done the PGMOL for doing that program.

Excellent.


* ****ers still owe us the league cup though

 

Yeah when they all burst out laughing about the cup final stung a little bit. Refs do seem like a massive bunch of weirdos though, not sure about Nevilles idea of getting to know them on a human level

 

I'm (re)doing the ref course in a few weeks.

 

Some of us do not have Sky so what is it all about?

 

Carragher and Neville went to join in referee training and discuss decisions with them. Very open. Very enlightening.

 

Certainly you get to know all the referees in the Saturday/Sunday park leagues and I have to admit, whereas I am certainly not a normal person, I've never really met any referee that wasn't a bit weird - an awful lot seemed to love telling people what to do, presumably that's why they officiate.

I've done it and it's not for me because virtually every footballer at that standard is a gobby w**ker.

 

I think you must have refereed me

 

* is there a verb 'to referee'

 

Yes, it's "to referee".

 

Refereed is perfectly cromulant (which is now a word).

I remember one game I had to officiate. We could still win the league and the opposition we're 'not very good' they told us they couldn't get a team so we let them play with several 'not signed on' players (we beat them 9-1 away from home) and eventually we won the game 3-2. During the game several players on their side called me 'Cheating c**t' to which I replied 'If I was cheating the score wouldn't be 3-2', it's the only time I ever shut a team up during a game.

I actually stopped being club secretary after that season (League Club Secretary of the Year winner twice) and just gave up altogether and now this forum is all I have to do with football.

 

Tbf the league I play in the refs are a complete joke, and fit in very well with your assessment of love to boss people about on a Saturday. This weekend just gone I gave away a free kick (fair enough it was a foul) and their player moved the ball about 10 yards forward from where the foul took place. I pointed it out to the referee who said why are you arguing over 10 yards as if it really matters? My response of "because it's the ****ing rules and that is what you are supposed to be here to enforce" earns me a yellow.

 

It really was good/interesting. Left me wanting more. They should do an extra time version.

Looking forward to how/what additional technology can be used to help them.

 

Hats off to Mike Reed. I still hunk he's a knob, but great celebration for his "goal"

 

The sad thing is people don't realise soon there wont be enough refs at the amateur level, people who think it's ok to scream and shout at refs lead to a lot of them just saying **** it and stopping. That might be why you think the ones left 'are weird'. Of course no one ever thinks that there doing a really difficult job for not a lot of reward which is vital to keep the game going. At no level is it acceptable to shout/swear at the ref but people doing so in amateur sport are a disgrace.

 

Never had done - never.

The best refs at an amateur level have always been the ones that treat you as a human and tell you what they're doing and why but in my experience they are few are fair between but having said that as I have stated I have nothng to do with football at any level not because of referees but rather the bulging veined, puce-faced, utter head-cases that used to run and play for Saturday/Sunday park clubs.

I mean we were all utter sh*t that is why we played in that standard, we had to pay to play and if we 'won' something we got a cheap plastic trophy that you can easily buy online for not much cost to remember a game that no one will recall in a few years time.

For instance I've got a trophy for the Commercial Houses Minnows Cup Final - our first season and my first game in the cup was the final - I got man of the match. Anyone interested? Anyone care? Anyone remember? So getting angry and trying to lump people in games like this just use to make me laugh.

Local football? As my dad says - they're not all locked up.

 

After finishing u-18 level I was really unsure about playing in Saturday league football. I love football and loved playing for my local team but every time I had watched the adults play there were fights and horrific challenges. As a tricky winger with a bit of pace I knew I was likely to be on the receiving end of nasty tackles, so I didn't join a team at first. Few years went by and I joined the team I am currently at. All decent blokes but even in training there are squabbles amongst themselves if someone puts in a hard tackle. Then I played my first game. First touched of the ball I had and I was on the receiving end of a two-footed tackle. Had I not jumped I would had a broken ankle. No card for the challenge, not apology from the other player, just some vitriol after I asked him what the **** was thinking. First game ended with having had fights and someone being headbutted in the face. It really is a place for thugs so I really do sympathise with amateur refs.