Controversial view: Most football chants are dull and unoriginal

Used it many times in the early 70s, a unique experience.

I have a vague memory of there being a nightclub on the Woolston side later, my brother-in law to be attempted to lead me astray that side of the river on several occasions.

 

When Ireland played them a few years ago they played it and the proclaimers at half time and most of the stadium got involved... was class!

 

Oh that was brilliant. Theamazing thing was this sort of nonsense normally happens when you’re getting hammered but we beat MK 6-0. Great evening.

 

I remember the old floating bridge too, am I right in thinking it’s now a floating restaurant?

 

Has anyone mentioned the Jason Puncheon "he went for a sh*t" chant yet?

That was hilarious

 

Yeah, that was funny at the time and in the early days of using the Sloop John B tune for songs.

 

Not on the Itchen river as far as I know, Chilcs.

 

Yep, spent many a debauched night in Floaters nightclub myself back in the day.

 

Used to sing that with mates walking home to Weston from the pubs in Woolston and Town.

"The weather-beaten Captain" in the video was my old next door neighbour, Harry Harding and he worked on that for years until it closed. My dad was one of "they Shipwrights grafting" at Thornycrofts too.

 

Just looked it up, the hull of Bridge no. 8, which served as the Woolston Ferry between 1896 and 1961, is now the Ferry Restaurant on the Hamble at Bursledon.

 

Ah yeah I remember now, drove past that before.

 

“he ****s when he wants”

 

Not just football chants, the "C'mon Andy*, c'mon," clap, clap, "C'mon Andy, c'mon," clap, clap drives me up the wall at tennis matches.

* insert player of your choice, usually male, usually British.

 

Until losing when he/she reverts to country of origin.

 

I don't know exactly how "When the Saints became associated with "Traditional jazz" as the first genuine jazz version that I am aware of was by Louis Armstrong in 1938 by which time he was fronting a big band and not a small line up as is more genuinely associated with New Orleans. It is quite a well known recording but by this stage in his career Armstrong's output was variable and nowhere as near as consistent as the music he had been making 10-15 years earlier. In fact, if you want to be pedantic, Armstrong's Hot 5 and Hot 7 recordings were revolutionary and were hugely significant in making jazz a soloist - based music as opposed to a collective polyphony interspersed with "breaks" by soloists. Prior to Armstrong's recordings, the tine was more usually associated with Gospel music but during the revival in Traditional Jazz that started in the mid-1940s, the tune became synonymous with this style of jazz. As far as I am aware, there is no jazz version prior to Armstrong's recording.

Even weirder is the fact that back in the 1980s the Saints fan used to sing a song about being a tractor driver in Hampshire to a tune that was originally written by Blues / Gospel singer Georgia Tom Dorsey. He is now more well know for the recordings he made with Tampa Red which were known as "Hokum" style of blues because the lyrics did not discuss social issues as some of the more famous musicians but focussed on very explicit sexual innuendo which would make most rappers blush. Dorsey later switched across to Gospel music where he was a prolific composer. His earlier Blues material was really popular and sufficiently well known for Don Redman's "McKinney's Cottonpickers" to make this recording of "Beedle um bum" which Saints fans of my generation will recognise the tune. I suppose the tunes had a degree of popularity due to the fact they were risqué . I really like MKCP although this is not a particularly great track. Historically, they were hugely significant in the evolution of big band jazz and Redman is usually credited with being the first writer to suss out how to write jazz for large ensembles. It is very strange how this tune from the late 1920s managed to cross the Atlantic and become a football chant and I think 99.9% of the supporters singing it will have no idea of it's origins which actually predate "When the Saints" as a jazz vehicle by ten years.

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If you're watching the League Cup game, our fans were chanting it around the 52nd minute just before we scored our third goal.

 

Yeah I doubt anyone here is watching your first round EFL cup game mate.

But then again, it is Fats...

 

The Skate's mate....