Off Topic Corona virus

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  1. Jammy 07

    Jammy 07 Well-Known Member

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    Well how magnaminous of you.
     
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  2. Davy

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    Sorry, this is a bit sanctimonious Jammy, and I’m disappointed.

    We are indeed all in this together, and all Leeds.

    And sometimes we all need to bite our tongues, since no-one has been elected governor.
     
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  3. Jammy 07

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    You're wrong, we're not all in this together.

    I've read things on this forum the last couple of weeks which have made me question the type of people I'm conversing with.
     
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  4. Davy

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    Mate, your tone is wrong.
     
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  5. Jammy 07

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    Sorry.
     
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    It's not been a good day is all I can say.
     
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  7. Davy

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    Faced with the same nightmare we all react differently and on here, express ourselves differently - some with more grace than others, not aimed at you.

    I’m not a Tory and personally distrust Boris and all he stands for, but I wish him well and hope he’s over it quickly like all the other victims.

    I hope if my family need it there’s a hospital bed available as readily as there was for Mr Johnson.

    <ok>
     
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  8. Jammy 07

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    Probably best I take a break for while.

    Or at least until I recover some manners and dignity.

    Stay safe people.
     
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  9. Davy

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    Yeah, I heard this evening that the young daughter of my work colleague had been diagnosed, even though they have hardly been over the door in weeks.

    Looks like nobody’s safe.
     
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  10. Jammy 07

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    Then she will be in my prayers tonight and every night.

    This is a sad, sad business.
     
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    Agreed Jammy, she’ll be in my prayers too. Stay safe you & yours buddy. :emoticon-0150-hands
     
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  12. Whitejock

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    Is this the same Johnson that was prepared to kill hundreds of thousands of us with his 'herd strategy'? The only statesman in the world to approve it?

    Well I hope he personally finds out how successful that is!

    I have no compassion for anyone who was happy to see me die in agony. I have no compassion for any of these basturds who have raped the NHS for donkeys year, whilst lying through their teeth that they're giving extra finds every year. That applies to all guilty parties, not just the 'kin tories.
     
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    As ye sow, so shall ye reap? Is that it WJ? I've read a few comments on a Fire Brigade group that I belong to. Johnson raped the London Fire Brigade of funds when he was Mayor of London. He closed stations, reduced the number of machines and reduced staffing levels. Then came GRENFELL! What an outcry there was over that. What would have been some of the first attendance stations were closed resulting in much longer response times. Thanks, Mr Johnson, you did a (good?) job.
     
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  14. Eric Le Merde

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    Sorry I upset you Jammy but I'm not going to change my opinion of somebody just because they are ill or recovered. He is still the same person but now ill like tens of thousands of others and they all have my sympathy and I hope they make a speedy recovery. I could add commentary about why there are possibly more infected than could otherwise have been the case, but I wont.
     
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  15. esteponawhite

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    Lads, these are hard times, we will get through it together.
    MOT
    STAY HOME STAY SAFE STAY STRONG
    ALAW ( even our friends from bermondsey)
     
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  16. lufctommo

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    I'm no fan of Johnson or the Tories but I think the herd immunity thing was blown out of proportion. It's not so much a policy as a scientific fact. In the absence of a vaccine which will take at least 18 months (and has never been successfully created for a coronavirus) the only way this is going to stop spreading is when a significant number of the population are immune. Of course with lockdown we can slow it, try to keep it under NHS capacity and shield some people.

    It was probably clumsy for them to mention herd immunity in such an outright way but the real damage has been done over 10 years rather than the last 10 weeks.
     
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  17. wakeycentraloneleeds

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    At last a statement of fact without bitterness and political slant. People seem to think this virus will go away if we all isolate. It will never go away and like other virus as you say people will aquire immunity. If you wish to see a pandemic that did kill millions then Google the Spanish flu of 1918.
     
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    It’s always been about spreading the impact so health services can cope... but there was clearly some internal wrangling about when and if to lockdown - I guess we’ll need to look back in a few months and view whether the ‘will they won’t they’ dallying for a couple of weeks was a disaster (obviously was for those affected) or whether it was a ‘good thing’ long term to have got more people infected early.

    Not decisions I’d want to have to make. Establishing what is the greater good or lesser of evils for a population of 60m.
     
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  19. ristac

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    That’s the thing, there isn’t a right or wrong way, it’s learn as you go along. The first week of this hitting the chancellor made a daily appearance with what they were doing to finance those with lost income.

    Hardly a journalist or the public cared about ppe. Then once we all knew we had some money coming it was poor NHS they need more protection. Once that arrived the journalists just continually hammered testing. Yesterday they switched to exit strategy, our press and journalists are garbage.

    Last night it was should Boris have been resting more, could you imagine the backlash if he’d said I need to rest more I’m not feeling great?

    Another thing with the journalists, they’re like a kid in a candy store when it’s time to asking questions. They fire out 3-4 questions meaning the least relevant can be answered in length one might be touched on and two ignored as the time runs out.

    When will they ever learn, ask the one question that matters, do they not chat to each other beforehand and share who asks what. Exit strategy was asked three times by three different journalists yesterday. At 5pm tonight they’ll all ask about Boris, they’ll all repeat exit strategy, they’ll all ask when do they expect Boris to return and can important decisions be made without him.
     
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  20. lufctommo

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    I also thought the lockdown was late but they were apparently going off expert advice which you would hope the government would do. I always compare us with Germany to see how we're doing, we have similar populations, similar economies and both weren't quite at the epicentre in the way Spain and Italy were. Obviously they've handled it much better than us so far.

    Another interesting comparison are the Nordic countries. Sweden have had a very soft lockdown and recorded 477 deaths. Finland and Norway have a similar combined population to Sweden but were much faster to lockdown and have so far recorded 105 deaths between them.
     
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