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Eject Swans and Bluebirds from English leagues if we can't join

Discussion in 'Swansea City' started by Stumpy, Jan 11, 2013.

  1. Stumpy

    Stumpy Well-Known Member

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    Ah! bless the rosey cheeked Scott for trying but please someone, tell him before he has a coronary, no one is listenning.

    Rangers continue to think they are bigger than they actually are. Funny how they seem to have 'found' enough money to go to the courts. I expect a few creditors, and there are hundreds, will want paying first.

    Rangers, under acheivers with delusions of grandeur, 2nd rate business run by 1st rate fools
     
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  2. Stumpy

    Stumpy Well-Known Member

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    and what happens if their independence bid is successful? kick them back out?

    hardly worth letting them in in the first place.

    Plus im sure Celtic would not support this as they are assured a regular Champions League place under the current format.
     
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  4. swanseaandproud

    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    non starter and i tell you why...we are founder members and we have never been in any other league so we have as the same rights as english based clubs. Rangers have made their own mess and thats not anyone's fault but their own. let them get on with it i could not care to hoots. If he wants to apply then thats fine but we are not obliged to let them in and disrupt our leagues...we are FULL....
     
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  5. MasterOfNone

    MasterOfNone Active Member

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    If they want to join stick them in the Blue Square North
     
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  6. Stumpy

    Stumpy Well-Known Member

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    Well spotted Dai <ok>
     
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  7. trundles left foot

    trundles left foot Well-Known Member

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    But they only want to be independent when it suits them. Not one club in the Pyramid dystem should loose out to them. Its just the dick head yorkshire man spouting off because the reforms in Scotland didnt suit them.
     
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  8. Kifflom!

    Kifflom! Well-Known Member

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    Dai is right - as we often have to explain to QPR supporters, the reasons are historical. Do you think he would be making these silly noises if his club hadn't ****ed itself up financially? The guy needs to check his history books before making a berk of himself.
     
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  9. Matthew Bound Still Lurks

    Matthew Bound Still Lurks Well-Known Member

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    He may have a point about the redtits though,franchise club and all that <whistle>,
     
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  10. VETCHETARIAN

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    Green by name,and Green by nature,not to forget the Green-eyed monster. :smile:
     
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  11. Dilligaf

    Dilligaf New Member

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    A bellend of the highest order.

    He's not a QPR fan is he ?
     
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  12. stevejack

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    Dai is spot on. We've only ever played in the football league system, plus we were invited by the FA in the first place along with the other Welsh clubs mentioned.
    They want Premiership money because they've been badly run. Imagine the damage they could do with SKY tv money as bait for an overdraft!

    By rights we shouldn't be allowed in the Welsh leagues because we've never been there. Same reason we SHOULD be in the Prem. Plus we deserve it because we've earned it the hardest way possible; running within our means with no sugar daddy.
     
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  13. swimaway

    swimaway Well-Known Member

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    This article about sums him up


    Spiers on Sport: Charles Green, a bull in a china shop

    There are two competing schools of thought about the faintly Barnum figure that is Charles Green, the Rangers chief executive.
    The first is that he is an engaging, gutsy man, who has astutely taken on this Rangers mess and stored up for himself future profit, while simultaneously restoring the club.The second is that he is a colourful buffoon, a blusterer adept in the outrageous statement, who has taken in the Ibrox hardcore with his megaphone pronouncements.I think there is merit in both points of view.
    Green is a hard man to place. He has done a lot that is admirable at Rangers, even while his tongue occasionally wags to lunatic effect.Give me more of this, I say. It's like having a circus right on your doorstep that you can dip in and out of any time you like. Whenever I think of Green I think of him in one of those huge, stripy top-hats.Yet Green's most recent outburst may sway any swithering neutral about him towards the second of these perspectives - that is, of the buffoon in action.
    Tub-thumping as only he can, Green has harangued the Scottish football authorities over their proposed 12-12-18 reconstruction of the leagues. The Ibrox CEO also stated, in quite a porridge of indignant sentiment, that Rangers should leave Scottish football as quickly as possible.Amid his frothing Green came upon one slight glitch…he didn't know where his club should go.Just to be sure, I quote him: "If that [12-12-18] is what we have [then] the quicker we can leave Scottish football the better."And then: "On first glance there is nowhere for us to go…but that doesn't mean we shouldn't start looking for an option."
    Curiously, Green was greatly agitated on Wednesday about the fact that, in any new 12-12-18 set-up, Rangers, should they win the Irn-Bru third division title, would not be "promoted" as such but end up playing the same teams again next season.Yet if Rangers were to be promoted in an unchanged system, they would go up to the third tier in Scottish football - just as, in a new 12-12-18 structure, they would resume in the third tier.Indeed, a title-winning Rangers, working their way up from the third division under the current system, would take three years from August 2012 to get back to the top - a time-frame that doesn't change in a 12-12-18 system.Even more strange, Green in his statement appears to favour "a bigger league" than the current SPL of 12.Yet in the SFL's counter-proposal to go to a 16-10-16, a title-winning Rangers this season would also have to stay in the bottom tier next year, playing the same teams again…but didn't Charlie just rage about this?Indeed, asked about the 16-10-16 scenario only a month ago, Ally McCoist, the Rangers manager, said he welcomed the plan.This is all very confusing.
    Mr Green's anger flies around like shrapnel, some of it hitting the mark, other bits smashing the tea-pot in the corner. On such occasions, he exhibits quite a lather.In truth, what we are witnessing here is the pain of an aggrieved Rangers, a wounded animal. This club is letting off steam at every conceivable opportunity.Green has made it his place to rage against the SPL and the SFA, and he never wants to miss a chance.Rangers are sore. They feel persecuted. The club and some of its supporters see various conspirators and "agendas" which are there to trip them up.You do meet other Rangers fans who accept the club's wrongdoing, who are stoical about their fate, and who remain a tad sceptical about Charles Green. But they are a silent majority (or minority).I don't mind Charles Green's bombast. Indeed, he is a dream for the Scottish media. He provides endless drama and headlines.But there is a chance that his endless indignation will become boring. Just occasionally, he might like to pipe down a bit.
     
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  14. Pricy147

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    a lot lower than that - there are about 6/7 divisions beneath that - it would take them 12+ years if they got promoted every single season. No justification for jumping up the structure. If they want it - fine imo - but start from the bottom like everyone else.

    Something tells me given the above option - they would stay put, and shut up!
     
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  15. Yankee_Jack

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    I have no problem with Rangers playing in the Prem ..... say in about 10 to 15 years they enter the base of the English pyramid system and win their way upward. Good luck to them.
     
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  16. PGFWhite

    PGFWhite Well-Known Member

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    Why hasn't he been campaigning for years on this issue ? What a chump.

    TBH Rangers should join the Faroe Islands League - its closer and more their level.
     
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  17. neveroffsidereff

    neveroffsidereff Well-Known Member

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    Not this again!!!

    Imagine the law suit if the FA, PL etc every tried this. It would cost millions and as Dai rightly said we are a founder member of Division Three South. So Rangers can go **** themselves.
     
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  18. Matthew Bound Still Lurks

    Matthew Bound Still Lurks Well-Known Member

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    Can't do the time then don't do the crime ,cheating bastewerds
     
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  19. mustyfrog

    mustyfrog Well-Known Member

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    bollocks, celtic would hold their own in the prem league as would have last years rangers
     
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  20. swimaway

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    Arguable, but they have no divine right to join the Premier. Starting from the Conference/2nd division is more than fair if they wanted to join to gain the financial rewards. Every other team in this league has earned their standing, what makes them any different. If they wanted different I would sue under European sexism laws just like that numpty thinks he can!
     
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