1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

Formation

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Premier_Bound_Tiger, Jun 6, 2013.

  1. Premier_Bound_Tiger

    Premier_Bound_Tiger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2012
    Messages:
    1,144
    Likes Received:
    76
    Just wondering what formation will we see used next season? The 3-5-2 served us well in the championship but I can't really see it working in the Premiership, especially when you look at the times Man City tried it this season and got ripped apart by the likes of Norwich.

    I know Agnew has stated that we will continue with the 3-5-2 at least for pre-season but that asks the question why are we after renewing Rosenior's contract? And surely he will want assurance that he will play before he signs anything which suggests a 4 back formation?

    I'd personally like to see us adapt a 4-2-3-1 as a feel it will benefit the attacking flair of Brady, Aluko and Boyd etc...
    However surely Bruce has a formation in mind, as correct me if I'm wrong but in the Summer transfer market don't you buy players to fit a system rather then buy players then fit a system around them?
     
    #1
  2. disquietTiger

    disquietTiger Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Messages:
    423
    Likes Received:
    35
    I expecting us to play 3-5-2 till we get a hammering, then a 4-2-3-1 with 2 'full backs' (possibly one, with Elmo or Brady taking the other spot) with the wing backs as wingers.

    For example

    Chezzy Faye Hobbs
    Elmo - Meyler - Evans - Quinn - Brady
    Fryatt - Aluko

    then

    Rosenior - Chezzy - Hobbs - Brady/or LB
    Meyler - Quinn
    Elmo - Aluko - Winger/Brady
    Fryatt

    I've used the players above to show what I think we'll do rather that the team we'll actually put out.
     
    #2
  3. Anal Frank Fingers

    Anal Frank Fingers Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2012
    Messages:
    3,804
    Likes Received:
    1,922
    4-5-1 seems to be the obvious way to go.
     
    #3
  4. rovertiger

    rovertiger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2011
    Messages:
    12,792
    Likes Received:
    14,431
    Formation wise, I want to see who Brucie brings in first,we may be in for a surprise.
     
    #4
  5. The FRENCH TICKLER

    The FRENCH TICKLER Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2011
    Messages:
    22,910
    Likes Received:
    613
    I suspect that we shall see all the main types(352,442,433,4411,4231) of formations. Horses for courses. Who is available and who is not on the day. We need to mix it up and not be predictable. 3 - 5 - 2 though when played correctly works best for us.

    As for Norwich ripping Man City to pieces ? were Man City bothered especially a week after the Wigan FAC Final mess ? maybe not.
     
    #5
  6. The FRENCH TICKLER

    The FRENCH TICKLER Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2011
    Messages:
    22,910
    Likes Received:
    613
    You may be correct at places like Chelsea and Man Utd.
     
    #6
  7. Happy Tiger

    Happy Tiger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    15,983
    Likes Received:
    7,359
    Rather than being stuck to a single formation, I fully expect Brucie to adapt according to the players he wants to put out and the team we're playing against.
     
    #7
  8. The FRENCH TICKLER

    The FRENCH TICKLER Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2011
    Messages:
    22,910
    Likes Received:
    613
    Maybe a 9-1 formation would work at say Man U and Chelsea. All hands to the pumps.
     
    #8
  9. Marshyx

    Marshyx Member

    Joined:
    May 22, 2013
    Messages:
    314
    Likes Received:
    17
    Last day of the season tactics worked well for me!
     
    #9
  10. Walter Sobchak

    Walter Sobchak Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2013
    Messages:
    4,922
    Likes Received:
    4,176
    Where's Mike Basset when you need him?
     
    #10

  11. GLP

    GLP Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Messages:
    28,906
    Likes Received:
    25,409
    I think we'll sign players so we can play a variety of formations. That's maybe why the Figueroa link (left back) and I'm sure that's why Rosenior has been retained so we can adopt 4 at the back if required.
     
    #11
  12. Amin Yapusi

    Amin Yapusi Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    36,132
    Likes Received:
    16,228
    I'd play a little more old school and go for 4-2-4, 3-2-5 etc.
     
    #12
  13. PLT

    PLT Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    25,384
    Likes Received:
    14,127
    Although it makes perfect sense, this never actually happens with us does it? I don't know if other teams do it more but for as long as I can remember we've just had a formation which we play every week regardless of opposition. Last year it was 3-5-2 and whilst we diverted to 4-4-2 a few times earlier on, but it wasn't down to the teams we were playing it was more to do with the players available at the time. In the PL we started off playing 4-3-1-2 against everyone and then changed to 4-5-1/4-6-0 against everyone.

    In terms of formations it's never going to be 100% right. If we lose heavily playing 3-5-2 everyone will blame the formation, I think some people have already decided that's going to be the problem. If we start playing 4-5-1 as some people want, and we struggle to score goals people will also blame 4-5-1. One thing I know is I'd rather see us lose games going for it than doing so not even trying to attack. Can't stand teams like that. The 4-2-3-1 we played under Barmby was good on paper, but there was never enough men getting forward, the two sitting midfielders did just that; sat in their own half. The 3-5-2 this season rarely left us exposed at the back. I guess my point is that there's a lot more to it than the numbers we call a formation.
     
    #13
  14. Willson

    Willson Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2012
    Messages:
    2,573
    Likes Received:
    756
    I can't see it going at all well if we attempt to play 352, seriously hoping we play 4231:

    --------------New Keeper-------------

    Rosenior---Chester----Hobbs---Figuroa

    ----------Meyler----New CDM---------

    ------Elmo-----Aluko-----Brady-------

    --------------New CF-----------------
     
    #14
  15. Happy Tiger

    Happy Tiger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    15,983
    Likes Received:
    7,359
    Makes no odds really, if he sticks with a formation he'll get whinged at, if he changes it, he'll get whinged at. Fans are always better managers, linesmen, refs and players than those in front of them.
     
    #15
  16. Steven Toast

    Steven Toast Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2011
    Messages:
    23,264
    Likes Received:
    16,352
    I'd go 4-2-4 (with our preferred targets)

    Sinan Bolat

    Rosenior ---- McShane ----- Chester ----- Figueroa

    Meyler ---- Quinn

    Elmohammady ---- -------- Brady

    Aluko ------ Hooper
     
    #16
  17. TheCasual

    TheCasual Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 6, 2011
    Messages:
    4,079
    Likes Received:
    1,609
    People read to much into formations. As long as players are played in there correct position then its all down to performance and mentality of players.

    I think we'll see various formations through the season.
     
    #17
  18. McGregor HU5

    McGregor HU5 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2011
    Messages:
    1,628
    Likes Received:
    571
    That comes down to formations though.
     
    #18
  19. PLT

    PLT Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    25,384
    Likes Received:
    14,127
    I think he means as long as people aren't just buggering off out of position.
     
    #19
  20. McGregor HU5

    McGregor HU5 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2011
    Messages:
    1,628
    Likes Received:
    571
    If you don't mind, I'm going to be a bitch for a second... Casual's use of the word "played" suggests that it is Bruce who should tell them to play in their best position, therefore Bruce and the formations fault if they play out of position. If he'd said "as long as players are playing in their correct positions" then what you posted would apply.

    <cool>
     
    #20

Share This Page