Off Topic Humber Bridge

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  1. DMD

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    I only just saw this Chazz

    Deepest condolences, tragic loss.
     
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    Of course my sympathy for those who have lost loved ones but this comes across as a knee jerk reaction which won't solve the underlying problem but will inconvenience many pedestrians and cyclists.
     
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    obviously not, there are some waist high gates on the north end of the path ... oh.

    I guess the Bridge board is trying to do the right thing, and removing the ability for people to act on impulse. Plus the more publicity there is about the sad incidents, the more it triggers copycats and you get clusters of events as it becomes self perpetuating. It would be nice if HDM could dial back on the numbers of stories a bit and let it calm down because it’s having the opposite of the intended impact.

    And obviously, if anyone is reading this and struggling with thoughts that could lead them here, or know anyone else that is, may I respectfully point you to the Mental Health thread at the top of this board. The first post especially has lots of good resources. You are not alone.
     
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    Only just seen this as well, sorry for your loss Chazz, signed n shared, there really needs something to be done, r.i.p
     
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  6. Chazz Rheinhold

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    How is it knee jerk?
    Why does anyone need to be wandering onto the Humber bridge past 10pm? How many cyclists would be affected between the hours of ten pm and 6 am ? Seriously how many?
    anyone going onto the bridge at that time and starts walking into the road will be able to be picked up sooner as they obviously have some intentions of harming themself
    You could even have a guard at both ends.
    this is happening more and more and it isn’t just the ones who do it there are regularly people talked off it that don’t get in the papers on an almost daily basis and it’s gotten worse since lockdown
     
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    All the local mps have been contacted Dutch. The bridge board will have bowed to a little pressure and this is their lazy way of hoping things drift away without spending any money.
     
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    Isn’t it a public right of way??
    Something needs to be done, but just closing it is not a solution
     
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    I can see no reason for not closing the bridge from dusk until dawn for pedestrian/cycle access.

    Then how hard can it be to install cameras at the pedestrian access points which flash lights/ring bells when somebody tries to get onto it? They already have security 24 hours so somebody can be onto it pretty sharpish. Might not be perfect but it's cheap and quick and shouldn't need a 12-month feasibility study.
     
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    This is going to sound quite harsh, and it really needs to be done by people that understand how to do it in a way that protects the feelings of those that have lost loved ones off the bridge, so I'd best make clear that people driven to feel that stepping off that bridge is their favoured option get my every sympathy, and I believe more should be done to look into the underlying issues that lead to that, and make sure people are aware of the support services out there. If someone is feeling that low, closing the footway simply closes one option.

    Now, the harsh bit.

    I read somewhere that people that jumped from Valley Bridge in Scarborough, tended to aim for the grass, presumably because it seemed softer, so perhaps a similar thinking is occurring with the bridge, but I think there are some romantic misconceptions about what happens when someone jumps into the Humber. It's not a dreamy drift into oblivion. For some reason, people seem to jump near the towers where the water is much more shallow and covered in big boulders. If people were more aware of the reality, they'd perhaps consider other options. People tend to survive the impact, and don't usually die of drowning no matter which section they choose. What tends to happen is that the impact forces the main leg bones up through the body, damaging the internal organs as they go, and it tends to be that damage that, after some time, takes them.

    Given people will have passed many other means of ending things before they got to the bridge, and they've chosen it over other high buildings, perhaps knowing the reality may just cause them to pause long enough to think that tackling their emotions may be a better alternative.
     
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    The suggestion was to close the footpath from 10pm to 6 am i think it is a knee jerk reaction to close it 24. 7.
     
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  12. Chazz Rheinhold

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    Ah ok
     
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    Drove over the bridge this morning. On the south side there were marshals/stewards on each side at the gates. Saw them let a couple of cyclists go north on the east path - wasn’t obvious why but perhaps they have some discretion?
     
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    That would be a good compromise in the short-term, and if they can have 'marshals' now hopefully something for the future or the 10 - 6 solution. Also more work on the underlying causes.
     
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    Truly awful and heartbreaking Chazz.
    I have signed.
    We were walking from St. Andrews Quay down the side of the Humber to the Marina.
    This was a week last Thursday.
    We had only walked for 5 minutes when a police officer asked if we had seen a schoolgirl in the area.
    She was aged 14 and in her uniform and they had had a tip off she was in that area.
    Hopefully that girl was found safe and well.
     
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    My workmares friends daughter jumped over a week or so ago.
    A young lad living near me ( 13) also went there 3 years ago also my sister in law was ta,ked down a fair fews years ago.
    Its all beyond sad :emoticon-0106-cryin.
     
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    I think maybe this was the young girl who had disappeared from Bransholme area as reported in HDM... I hope they've found her...
     
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    Signed, honoured to do so..
     
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