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  1. Zanjinho

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    Agree with ask that but players and managers have got to believe in themselves too though
     
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  2. THE FOOL

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    Definitely, I doubt you get to be a premiership manager by being a bit nervous. You've got to have balls of solid brass to take on the utd job and think you can make it work, belief and ability are two very different things tjough.

    To be fair, if poch wants to win and be regarded as great he might as well take the chance, he's not going any further with spurs. Well unless they fluke the champs league lg or something
     
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    Especially with Levy not releasing funds and a new stadium to pay for. He's at risk of becoming the new Wenger without the initial glory years.
     
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  4. carlthejackal

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    I think the United job is almost an impossible one unless the owners/executives say right at the outset that they are prepared to wait for success. As long as they see the club going in the right direction and the football is good they'll be patient. The pressure on the manager but also the players is immense. Many of those players just crumble under the intense scrutiny.
     
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  5. THE FOOL

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    I think the standard of football must improve, to see city and us at the top of the league must be galling, but to experience that while watching the dross that has been served up must be a killer.

    Like us last year, you will accept losing a game, as long as your winning more and it's good to watch, but even last year they finished second but where awful.

    If who ever comes in gets them playing again, it will give them a boost.
     
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  6. THE FOOL

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    The glory years ended up as a chain round Wenger's neck, the lack of spending was a stick to beat him with.

    Poch is seen as doing well on limited funds, the question is does he stick or twist
     
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    Accordingly to Sky Sports, it's Solsjkear until the summer.

    Leaked by the Norwegian PM and on the Man Utd website.
     
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  8. InFrancroatiaWeTrust

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    Strange one. Leaving perm job to take it on for 6 months
     
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  9. InFrancroatiaWeTrust

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    Disagree. It was an impossible job but the last 3 have been so bad in their own different ways, that getting united playing some decent football and in top 4 would be seen as a success atm
     
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    That has been the problem. Maintaining the success has proved very hard. It has been ok for Mourinho to come in after Van Gaal (like Van Gaal after Moyes) to lift the club and get some relative success. The pressure to keep winning trophies and to challenge for the title has been intense and Mourinho wanted to keep adding to his squad. Once he was told no, he felt he was being obstructed and threw a tantrum and fell out with everyone at the club, executives and players.
     
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    Getting the manager right is only part of the job at Utd I get the feeling that if they had a good manager in who was getting them into the top 4 that the money would dry up a little. The owners want a profit more than success.
    There is a core of very good players at Utd and it won't take much for them to challenge for the top 4 places but that won't be enough for the fans and rightly so.
    I don't think this decline is over yet, expect more drama.
     
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  12. InFrancroatiaWeTrust

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    The money didn’t dry up when they were in the top 4... everyone says a lot about the owners but you can’t say they haven’t given the managers fund needed, maybe only moyes didn’t get a decent amount but he spunked it on fellaini so you can’t blame them for not trusting hin
     
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  13. luvgonzo

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    There's a certain level they will fork out as long as they are hitting that mark but I would question their ambition to actually challenge.
     
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  14. InFrancroatiaWeTrust

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    They gave Ferguson £30m for a crocked 30 year old in his final year. 30m back then was about 60m now
     
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  15. jenners04

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    is that the ex arsenal player?

    cant remember his name <laugh>
     
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    didn't work ffs was a funny gif :(
     
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    please log in to view this image
     
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    <laugh> Beautiful reconstruction <laugh>
     
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  19. Red Hadron Collider

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    Average? <laugh> |Ahead of citeh in the PL and average <laugh> Get used to it. You're ****ing has-beens <laugh>
     
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  20. jenners04

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    i think he meant we had players out and wasn't our full strength team.

    lovren and clyne are not first team players are they but was a weakness they wasn't good enough to expose.
     
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