New owner confirmed…

This thread feels like we've rewound to 2011.

The one thing Acun has said explicitly is that he doesn't want to buy the stadium. Why are we talking about how easy and how expensive it'd be to buy the stadium given that he's taken that off the table straight away?

 

Exactly, he’s already outlined exactly what he wants to do with development of the area and the team and where the money is going, so I don’t really understand why we’re talking about buying the stadium when he doesn’t plan to.

 

I heard him say he wasn't looking to buy the ground, that he was expecting to spend 'big' for a striker(s), but what else has he said that outlines exactly what he wants to do with the development of the area? I must have missed that detail?

 

Must have missed that at the time I replied but access (lack of) is the main issue there.

If it were up to me I'd put platforms on the lesser used curve adjacent to the east stand. Maybe there might be route to limited development as part of some kind of wide ranging transport plan? There are cases where local light rail schemes share infrastructure/interact with the national rail network in some cities.

Obvs that would involve a lot of joined up thinking and public funding to achieve though and be outside the scope of purely commercial development.

 

That's been looked at a few times. I think AP was one, and the price asked by railtrack made it nonviable.

 

Angus Young has been reporting on a new draft masterplan for the HRI site this week and commented on a railway halt which would have to serve hospital workers as well as the stadium.

 

Wasn't there some kind of proposed light rail plan at some point? Must be one of the few large cities riddled with closed railway 'corridors' not to have one.

Cost about 100m in 2000 to link Tyneside metro with Wearside sharing network rail tracks, but obviously that would require government grants and all sorts of cash which Hull seems to miss out on - or councillors don't apply for.

 

*This*

Seems a no brainer to me as far as city traffic emisssions and congestion is concerned.

Deffo wouldn't want to have a heart attack as things stand and need to get the HRI in a hurry at either rush hour or 4:45 PM on a Saturday.

 

You would think this development zone would be integrated with any development plans for around the stadium or do HCC operate in silos?

 

It is being considered at, for want of something better, consultancy level. Who is funding the research, I don't know. But the local rail system is being given a good looking at.

 

Good, the obvious location for a new Halt is Argyle Street to serve both HRI and the short walkway to the MKM.

 

And if the council had the brainwave of turning Walton Street into a park and ride facility which would ease traffic congestion and maybe even earn them a few bob too as well as tidying up the current eyesore, who knows, they might be onto a winner. Which is one reason it will not even be considered.

 

Park and ride anywhere on the Beverley Hull line would help.

Dunswell or parish thereof - pooh pahed

A halt on the old Grammar School field near the footbridge for the cycle track part of Hotham Road North - pooh pahed

Despite Railtrack wanting an obscene amount of money to construct a halt cum Park and Ride at the MKM, the will doesn't seem to be there at council level.

 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/dearingbuspix/albums/72157648830515847/

 

Walton st was a park n ride wasn’t it but no one used it?

 

If you've battled traffic to get to Walton St then you might as well go the rest of the way. Ideally you'd want out of town car parks with clear pathways for public transport to multiple points in the city centre.

Problem with the train currently is it only takes you to Paragon so you often need to go right into the city centre then get a bus back out to wherever you need to be.

Light rail potentially resolves both issues.

 

Firstly depending on location it could serve both HRI and MKM.

Secondly how many people would really want to park, get the train then walk 15 mins in all weather's and then do the same in reverse as part of a daily commute? It's easier just to drive in and queue - surely less traffic and quicker access is the whole aim of the project and most cities seem to be less of a pig to navigate than Hull currently is.

You need to provide a more efficient alternative to driving in. At the moment there isn't one.

 

One of the deciding factors on location was the expectation that railtrack would build a halt, but they wouldn’t contribute any money at all to the proposal and the idea was dropped.

 

Such decisions go hand in hand with political will and financial backing.