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He said (or at least implied) he wanted a long term lease that would allow development of the stadium. 100 year lease makes that possible - almost as viable as outright ownership. A 25 year lease doesn't. What Tan has said in interviews seems to point towards the same thing.

 

They did suggest that it could be done if someone else funded it, but the costs they were quoting meant it made no business sense to anyone.

 

Ask Londoners, tynesiders, mancunians ect. The idea of light rail is its a hop on/hop off service. Obvs you need frequent services and convenient stops for it to work which isn't exactly the case currently in Hull.

If you can park, be on a train/tram within 10 mins and it takes you where you're going without having to sit in traffic or walk and get piss wet through whilst freezing your bollocks off twice a day for half the year then it actually works well.

 

I think the plan was for direct trains, or to change from your original train to the shuttle one. That'd be a winner with plod, as they'd have a pre-built cordon.

As for walking, people don't do that much of it now as far as HRI is concerned, hence the 'outrage' at staff being charged for parking. I'd favour free parking for visitors, as they generally have less opportunity to look for alternatives.

For City, I've heard and read people complaining about it taking them an hour to travel 3 miles home from leaving the car park. That's just a slow amble for walking speed, but they still do it in a car, and complain.

 

That's probably the only way to make halts at HRI/MKM financially/operationally viable.

Stadium of plight only got its station when the T&W Metro extended along existing network rail tracks to Sunderland despite there being a fully preserved disused station right next door to it from the time it was built.

 

The Metro has also been extended to Hylton. Years after the tracks were ripped up post Beeching. Sort of, nearly, swerve it here and there, exactly where it was.

Meanwhile, back here, the old Hull Barnsley high level route is a possibility. Though, being high level presents access problems.

The build it, they will come approach, I am not so sure about. If the cars queuing from the outskirts of Beverly to the roundabout at Willerby are anything to go by. Or perhaps, instead of yet another housing estate to the south, install a massive park and ride?

 

There are plans afoot to reopen a substantial part of the leamside route as part of the Metro system to just north of Durham as a further extension. The logical thing if that happens would be to also reinstate the junction at Penshaw, west of South Hylton a mile or so away.

There are loads of possible routes based on old and existing lines around the city. Most of the current rail infrastructure in Hull used to carry passengers and could again if the political will was there, but there isn't so it doesn't.

 

If it was free car parking on Walton Street then a £1 return on the train into the city centre people would use it. They'd also be a train going the other way to Cottingham, Beverley, Driffield, Bridlington and Scarboro which is well used.

 

A halt at the stadium/HRI would be a useful staging post for commuters from outside the area.

The problem is that the East Riding are very unlikely to accommodate any vehicles people may want to use to get to the stations on route, which is where a part of the issue of usability arises.

Unfortunately, that short sightedness and competition holds the region back.

 

Nope, as not everyone comes in from that direction.

 

There’s already a Park and Ride at Priory Park. Stops right outside HRI and the MKM.

 

Park and ride using busses sit in traffic, they don't beat the traffic.

Might as well drive in.

And yeah, light rail projects serving cities often do have stations less than 1/2 mile apart, but depending where situated 1 stop probably could serve both stadium and hospital.

 

I don’t have any evidence but use some common sense, why else would the council actively encourage a fair that drains hundreds of thousands of pounds from Hull each year?

 

Is this thread still arguing the toss about the bloody fair?!

 

I'll ask again

How would that even happen? (your claim that individual councillors somehow benefit financially to pay for their holidays)

 

I know, it's not fair is it?