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  1. THFC6061

    THFC6061 Well-Known Member

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    Newcastle United host Tottenham Hotspur at St. James' Park on Wednesday 12th February (KO 19:45) in the 26th Round of matches of the 2013-14 Premier League.

    Newcastle come into the match in 8th place in the Table on 37 points with Spurs in 5th place on 47 points. This will be the 152nd time the two clubs have met.

    The first meeting came in the old second round (today's fourth round) of the FA Cup in February 1905 with Newcastle drawing 1-1 at White Hart Lane before winning the replay at St James' Park 4-0. To date, the clubs have met 9 times in the FA Cup.

    The clubs met for the first time in the Football League in November 1909 in the First Division with Newcastle winning 1-0 at St James' Park and completing the 'double' over Spurs with a 4-0 win at White Hart Lane in March 1910.

    Tottenham's first win over Newcastle came in a First Division match at White Hart Lane in November 1912 with Jimmy Cantrell scoring the only goal of the match.

    There were further meetings in the First Division up to season 1933-34 with honours generally pretty even.

    An FA Cup 4th round match in January 1935 was won 2-0 by Spurs at White Hart Lane with George Hunt (Spurs' record goalscorer until Bobby Smith) scoring both goals.

    The next 12 meetings between the clubs came in the Second Division of the Football League either side of World War Two from 1935-36 to 1947-48. These dozen matches were the only League games contested between Spurs and Newcastle outside the Top Flight of English Football.

    The 1950-51 season saw Spurs win their first Football League Championship and in the process they did the 'double' over Newcastle winning 7-0 at home and 1-0 away. The 70,336 spectators at White Hart Lane for that emphatic 7-0 win were the largest crowd at any Spurs v Newcastle fixture in history.

    Spurs beat Newcastle United in the 1952 Charity Shield 2-1 at White Hart Lane with Les Bennett and Peter 'Spud' Murphy scoring the goals which won the silverware.

    The first Football League Cup meeting came in the Semi-Finals in January 1976 with John Pratt scoring the winning goal at White Hart Lane in the first leg but Newcastle winning 3-1 at St James' Park despite a Don McAllister goal to advance to the Wembley Final.

    Newcastle United, along with West Ham United, were the first clubs to be promoted to the Premier League for the 1993-94 season and Spurs won the first match against Newcastle in the competition 1-0 away at St James' Park with a Teddy Sheringham goal. The Magpies had their revenge at White Hart Lane in December with a 2-1 win.

    An FA Cup Semi-Final at Old Trafford in April 1999 was won 2-0 by Newcastle after extra time.

    Newcastle lost their Premier League status at the end of the 2008-09 season but won promotion at the first attempt managed by former Spurs player and assistant manager Chris Hughton. Hughton was sacked under contraversial circumstances in December 2010 and Alan Pardew was appointed as Newcastle's new manager.

    The fixture at St. James' Park last in October 2011 resulted in a 2-2 draw. Rafael van der Vaart opened the scoring from the penalty spot after 40 minutes. Demba Ba pulled Newcastle level three minutes into the second half but Jermain Defoe's 68th minute goal looked like securing all three points. Substitute Shola Ameobi scored a late equaliser for Newcastle. The reverse fixture at White Hart Lane in February 2012 resulted in a comprehensive 5-0 win for Spurs with goals from Benoit Assou-Ekotto, Louis Saha (2), Niko Kranjcar and Emmanuel Adebayor.

    The opening match of the 2012-13 season at St James' Park resulted in a 2-1 win for Newcastle. Demba Ba put United ahead after 54 minutes with Jermain Defoe equalising for Spurs after 76 minutes. Ben Arfa was fouled by Aaron Lennon and he scored from the penalty spot for the winner on 80 minutes.

    Spurs won their home League game in February 2013 2-1 with two goals from Gareth Bale, the first coming after 5 minutes from a free-kick and the second after 78 minutes. Yoan Gouffran had levelled things for Newcastle mid-way through the first half.

    Newcastle United won the Premier League game in November 2013 at White Hart Lane 1-0 with Loic Remy's 13th minute goal proving to be the match winner. Tim Krul made a string of outstanding saves to keep Tottenham from scoring.

    Tottenham Hotspur have won 63 of the 151 matches played so far with Newcastle United winning 56 and the remaining 32 games drawn.

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    Full History of Tottenham Hotspur v Newcastle United Matches 1905-2014

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    They Played for Spurs & Newcastle....

    Ossie Ardiles (Spurs player & manager, Newcastle manager)
    Sebastien Bassong
    Ted Birnie
    Kevin Bond (Assistant manager at both clubs)
    Garry Brady
    Ivor Broadis
    Keith Burkinshaw (Spurs manager, Newcastle coach)
    Sol Campbell
    Stephen Carr

    Jesse Carver (Newcastle player, Spurs coach)
    Ray Clarke
    Les Ferdinand
    John Fleming
    Ruel Fox
    Tony Galvin (Spurs player, Newcastle asst. manager)
    Peter Garland
    Paul Gascoigne
    David Ginola

    Bert Gosnell
    Chris Hughton (Spurs player & asst. manager, Newcastle manager)
    Jim Iley
    Jermaine Jenas
    John McTavish
    Peter McWilliam (Newcastle player, Spurs manager)
    Paul Moran
    Taffy O'Callaghan
    Alan Pardew (Spurs loanee, Newcastle manager)
    Scott Parker
    Wayne Routledge
    Louis Saha
    Kevin Scott
    Mark Stimpson

    Allan Taylor
    Archie Turner
    Chris Waddle
    Jonathan Woodgate

    Charlie Woods (Chief scout with both clubs)

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    Tottenham Hotspur Premier League Player's Squad Numbers 1993-94 to 2013-14

    Newcastle United Premier League Player's Squad Numbers 1993-94 to 2013-14

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  2. Boss

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    Newcastle need to attack as they are at home and under pressure to put on a performance unlike earlier this season when Pardew outwitted Avb with the help of Krul!

    Lennon and Townsend on the wings, let's use our pace on the counter and Adebayor to finish them off. Plus they have no Cabaye or Remy. If we can't take advantage then we blow a great chance to increase our hopes of top four.
     
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  3. Moorpheus19

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    Is Remy still suspended?

    If he is then we should have a decent chance.
     
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  4. PleaseNotPoll

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    Yep. Last game. Cabaye's gone, Tiote's injured.
     
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  5. littleDinosaurLuke

    littleDinosaurLuke Well-Known Member

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    A very decent played for both XI from the past 20 years, although, like both clubs over that period, probably more style than substance.

    Great time to play Newcastle.
     
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  6. KingHotspur

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    Judas played for Newcastle?
     
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    Played would be stretching it. He sort of wobbled about for a bit.
     
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  8. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Think it's a good time to play Newcastle, they've not looked too great and the failure to replace Cabaye is practically suicidal to any European football ambitions they harbour.

    Team I'd like:

    Lloris,
    Walker, Dawson, Vertonghen, Rose
    Capoue, Bentaleb
    Townsend, Dembele, Eriksen - Eriksen and Townsend switching throughout.
    Adebayor

    Could do with a bit of beef protecting the back 4 so I'd like to see Capoue in the starting XI in place of Paulinho. Lennon has unimpressed recently and seeing as Townsend's back now I'd like to see him given a start. Ideally I'd love for Kaboul to start with Vertonghen but I can't see it happening, likely to make his first start vs Dnipro and then see he fares.
     
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  9. Spurm

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    I don't see the need for 2 holders, so i'd go for 1.5 holders

    Lloris
    Walker Dawson Verts Rose
    Capoue Dembele
    Lennon Eriksen Townsend
    Ade
     
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  10. totsfan

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    Never mind holders, we need scorers,Ade can't do it every game
     
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    transfer window is shut, so he'll have to <laugh>
     
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  12. No Kane No Gain

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    Not sure with this game. Lennon's probably the obvioius choice to drop for Townsend but he usually plays well at St James' Park. Bentaleb did well sweeping up yesterday and Capoue's a bit clumbsy in the tackle so I'd probably go with the youngster again midweek. It's been ages since I saw Newcastle play so I'm not even sure what to expect to be honest, I've no idea whether we should be looking to have an open game or a more controlled game like against Everton.

    Has anyone lost 3-0 for 3 games in a row before? Hopefully we'll be inflincting it on them this Wednesday.
     
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  13. THFC6061

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    Lawro's Prediction for Newcastle United v Tottenham Hotspur

    Tottenham beat Everton on Sunday despite not playing very well, which is fine, but what worried me was the lack of cohesion in their team.

    I just thought they looked average in all departments.

    Newcastle are in the middle of a difficult spell - they have 37 points so they are not going to get relegated and they are probably not going to finish any higher than seventh.

    The Magpies are not in free-fall, but it does feel like they are in limbo.

    Maybe the only good thing to come out of their last home game, that derby defeat by Sunderland, is that on Wednesday the crowd will be letting them know that they will not stand for that kind of display again.

    Lawro's prediction: Newcastle United 2-1 Tottenham Hotspur


    Lawro's 2013-14 Predictions
     
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  14. Roo

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    Lloris
    Walker Dawson Vertonghen Rose
    Capoue
    Dembele Eriksen Paulinho Townsend
    Ade

    For me, when Capoue came on yesterday, the defence looked more confident having a "beast" in front of them. Prior to Capoue coming on, Dawson was shaky again, out of position, sliding in unnecessarily and even gave a free kick away in a dangerous position. Also, nothing against Bentaleb, but i just think we need Capoue's presence more.

    With Dembele clearly having the ability to take people on and retain the ball, I'd like to see him used as a winger, where he is more likely to have the space to deliver somesort of final ball. I'd also like to see him swap with Townsend at times to add some variety.

    With Capoue protecting the defence, and paulinho playing just in front, hopefully this would allow Eriksen to support Ade and have some freedom to add that central creative spark that no ones seems to offer.

    This formation will never happen, but I can hope I suppose.
     
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    If this happens i will buy you a pint Mr Sherwood Sir.
     
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  16. Sidney Fiddler

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    IMHO this is one of our strongest first 11's but I can't see it being used by Sherwood.
    Amazing in the bulls up department it doesn't contain our 60 million record signings duo.
     
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  17. PleaseNotPoll

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    Team from players not in that XI, if everyone was fit:
    Friedel; Naughton, Kaboul, Chiriches, Fryers; Lennon, Sandro, Bentaleb, Chadli; Lamela; Soldado.
    Still no room for Defoe or Sigurdsson.
     
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  18. THFC6061

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    Just 7 matches from September 2010 to December 2010.
     
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  19. No Kane No Gain

    No Kane No Gain Well-Known Member

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    Should use this photo.

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    Fat bastard.
     
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  20. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    <laugh>.
     
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