Off Topic Politics Thread

Common sense and logic do not apply to the UK electorate evidenced by the brexit vote and subsequent general elections. Hoodwinked by the brexit campaign and Johnson's election bullshit.

 

Gary Neville for PM and Marcus Rashford for Chancellor.

 

And Matt Le Tiss for court jester

 

Not Minister for Health anyway

 

I don't think there's a ministry for conspiraloons.

 

The back story to the comment below, is that the newspaper reported that Johnson, in response to a question about his marriage, had replied that he was experiencing “buyers remorse”.
I read the original article, in which they made it clear that they didn’t know if he had said it in jest or if it was an unguarded response made in front of several journalists who work for the Telegraph. (It was at the dinner he flew back from the COP26).

 

Probably is with this government tbh.

 

Concerns raised by the British Medical Association with regards to the Bill being pushed for by the Tories.

 

It’s a complete crock of ****. We need these corrupt idiots out now before they do any more damage.

 

As a socialist I am pleased to say that I have suddenly become very proud of my Tory MP Caroline Nokes and wish her more power to her elbow.

 

https://www.not606.com/threads/poli...-faint-hearted.353454/page-1225#post-15352710

It was deleted but not immediately as we were in conversation with Tobes and Brb after the post was brought to our attention

 

I was open minded about it all but felt something was not quite right. He went back for a second spell and invited some of the accused to his wedding. Was he genuinely upset by it all or was he joining in with “some” of it as banter?

In the case of Vaughn I read somewhere he used the term “you lot”. Is this racist or insensitive? Take it another way, if it was three Australian test team members and you used the term “you lot” is that racist?

Then last week he was guilty of posting his own racist remarks and inappropriate behaviour on a plane with a 16 year old.

My issue is you know he won’t be tarnished with the same racism brush as those he has accused. His crimes are not lesser than those he is making accusations against. Yes if the accused are guilty deal with them but deal with Rafik in the same manner.

The issue with racism has a few varied problems. We have a huge proportion of 50-60 something year olds who grew up accepting Jim Davidson, Love Thy Neighbour, Until Death Do Us Part and Freddie Starr were all very funny. Times are changing and the older you get the harder it is to accept change. Paddy and Jock are these racist terms? Within the next 20 years they’ll probably be frowned upon as much as P and N are now. I only discovered last week that the word Eskimo is actually considered racist.

Rappers and music artists are releasing records with degrading comments to women, using words like bitch and the “N” word so kids are growing up thinking it’s acceptable behaviour.

The approach to racism is wrong, we need to teach why it is wrong. Issuing fines or bans from stadiums as a punishment breeds more anger and resentment, it fuels more racism, it isn’t a cure.

Companies like Sky and BBC are going through box ticking exercises, best person for the job is fine but we all know they’re scampering for more women and dark skinned presenters. It angers a huge percentage as does the taking the knee before games. This wasn’t thought through either.

It divides opinion which defeats the object, many feel BLM is too close to American extremist, Sky adopted and pioneered for this ignoring the UKs very own “Kick It Out” as it was probably on trend for them.

I don’t wish to argue about BLM or taking the knee, just pointing out it was a gesture that didn’t have everyone on board, it created more divide.

 

I think this is probably the most important part of the very measured post. Attitudes are difficult to change because society for years told us it was banter or funny. WIth hindsight (and being of Indian origin myself and growing up in the 70s/80s) it really wasn't.

I also agree with you that Rafiq is also guilty of certain things and shouldn't be excused. However, two wrongs don't make a right if you see what I mean.

 

I grew up in the 80's in a rough multicultural area. Wasn't nice at times.

Do you feel that as time has gone on that things have improved since you grew up or have largely remained the same?

 

It has got better, but maybe I am more thick skinned. Also the older you get the better you feel about yourself.

I still notice a lot that my 100% white, Blonde wife fails to notice.

 

In reference to your blonde wife not noticing.

I cheer on Lewis Hamilton as he’s a Brit but as a person I think he’s a bit of a prick. One thing that made me think about things was Toto Wolff. Toto said Lewis asked him “have you ever in your life woke up and thought about your skin colour and acceptance in society” Toto said no and it struck home with him

 

****ing hell. Spaffer has finally lost it.