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Off Topic Prince Andrew

Discussion in 'The Premier League' started by Libby, Sep 10, 2021.

  1. duggie2000

    duggie2000 Well-Known Member

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    Thats why I said deny he knew she was underage, she could have been 18 or 19 from her photo and she certainly did not look under duress, It was denying he met her that ****ed him

    in these situations do not lie but dont say anything to imply any guilt
     
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    Isn't that what she's alleging, though? It's using her own claim against her case.
    If she denies that the deal applies, then she has to deny one of the basic facts of her claim.
     
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  3. duggie2000

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    The whole thing is a giant mess

    The only losers will be Andrew and the girl

    The only winners will be the lawyers for both parties
     
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    But isn't that a typical defence "I didn't know she was under age guv!" which usually cuts no ice with the cops or the courts.

    I think it would've been enough to get him charged. Even if he got off in court, the risk of being charged and having to face a trial at all is what he and the royals would want to avoid.
     
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    She wasn't actually underage though, unless he knew she was being trafficked, IIRC.
     
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  6. Solid_Air 2

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    Never understood why he didn't just say "yeah i shagged her " but she appeared over 18 plus i met her in a club where she legally would have been over 18 to enter " .
     
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    I see where you're coming from. But it depends on her reason for why it doesn't apply. If it's because he wasn't one of the associates it would weaken her case and she'd have to give a good reason why the current case is different. On the other hand if her lawyers are saying it doesn't apply because Epstein is dead and she no longer deems that agreement as relevant then they could argue this case still stands.
     
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    Maybe because it brings the royals into disrepute. I mean, it's not like it's ever happened before in its 1000+ year history.
     
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    Am I right that this business woman that assisted in the Newcastle saudi buy-out, once turned a proposal down from Prince Andrew, ffs, you couldn't make this shhite up sometimes.
     
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  10. duggie2000

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    Exactly she was not underage in the UK, where I think the picture taken

    Lets be honest here if your 40, divorced and looking good for your age, at a party where you have had a few drinks and are introduced to a girl who looks 18 or 19 and who makes a pass at you

    Are you going to think, get in there son or say no thank you my mother is the Head of The Church of England and I have an image to protect

    Be honest now
     
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  11. Tobes

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    It depends on the basis of the agreement and whether it related to her accepting that nothing happened, or whether it was just an agreement where she was paid a sum in return for silence. Whatever happens with it, this ain’t going to court imo, as she wants cash, it’s just about whether she’ll get paid.
     
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    He knew fine well what Epstein was & what his parties were all about imo. The fact that he went to stay with him after he’d been released from a sentence for noncing says it all. He liked Epstein and his ‘products’.
     
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  13. Solid_Air 2

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    He has been bringing the the Royals into disrepute for at least 20 years with his desperate freeloading off rich but dodgy folk .
     
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    Yeh I was saying it tongue in cheek lol. Your point is right though, and it shows they can be bare faced about it and not give a fck. Same goes here as well.
     
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    I know that, but that was not my point

    We are all taking the moral high ground, but, if that situation had been genuine without all the damming background, what would we have done
     
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    not sure i get your point with this .
     
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    Oh right, I can only speak for myself, but at 40, a teenage pro wouldn’t have been my bag, but men of that ilk are used to being served up pros at the ‘right’ sort of party, same as it ever was.
     
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  18. Solid_Air 2

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    this ^^^
     
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    I don't see any difference between what you said about freeloading and what I said earlier about not bringing the royals into disrepute for admitting he shagged some 18 yo girl he met at a nightclub. It's his and many of the royals' general attitude. Do what you want but don't acknowledge any wrongdoing.
     
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    Therefore being in that circle unless he knew for sure she was underage and trafficked he is innocent of those charges, but not of being a low life
     
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