Match Day Thread QPR vs Cardiff

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QPR vs Cardiff City
Wednesday 1st January 2020 - 3pm
Kiyan Prince Foundation Stadium

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Previous meetings v Cardiff City
Games won: 35
Games drawn: 14
Games lost: 27

Ones to remember;
14 Nov 1931 Cardiff City v Queens Park Rangers W 0-4 Division Three (South)
11 Feb 1933 Queens Park Rangers v Cardiff City W 5-1 Division Three (South)
21 Oct 1933 Queens Park Rangers v Cardiff City W 4-0 Division Three (South)
07 Dec 1935 Queens Park Rangers v Cardiff City W 5-1 Division Three (South)
13 Feb 1937 Queens Park Rangers v Cardiff City W 6-0 Division Three (South)
27 Dec 1938 Queens Park Rangers v Cardiff City W 5-0 Division Three (South)
08 Sep 1970 Queens Park Rangers v Cardiff City W 4-0 League Cup
28 Sep 1988 Queens Park Rangers v Cardiff City W 3-0 League Cup
11 Oct 1988 Cardiff City v Queens Park Rangers W 1-4 League Cup

Ones to forget;
08 Apr 1950 Cardiff City v Queens Park Rangers L 4-0 League Division Two
29 Nov 2002 Queens Park Rangers v Cardiff City L 0-4 League Division 2
25 May 2003 Cardiff City v Queens Park Rangers L 1-0 League Division 2 Play-Off Final

Players who have played for both;
Gerry Francis;
1968–1979 Queens Park Rangers 295 (53)
1981–1982 Queens Park Rangers 17 (4)
1984 Cardiff City 7 (0)

Matthew Brazier (RIP);
1994–1998 Queens Park Rangers 49 (2)
1998 → Cardiff City (loan) 11 (2)
1999–2002 Cardiff City 56 (3)

Richard Langley;
1996–2003 Queens Park Rangers 133 (18)
2003–2005 Cardiff City 69 (8)
2005–2006 Queens Park Rangers 33 (3)

Leon Jeanne;
1997–2001 Queens Park Rangers 12 (0)
2001–2002 Cardiff City 2 (0)

Jay Bothroyd;
2008–2011 Cardiff City 116 (41)
2011–2013 Queens Park Rangers 25 (3)

Matthew Connolly;
2008–2012 Queens Park Rangers 116 (2)
2012– Cardiff City 137 (7)

Wayne Routledge;
2008–2009 → Cardiff City (loan) 9 (2)
2009–2010 Queens Park Rangers 44 (3)
2011 Queens Park Rangers (loan) 20 (5)

Brian Murphy;
2011–2015 Queens Park Rangers 2 (0)
2016– Cardiff City 5 (0)

Junior Hoilett;
2012–2016 Queens Park Rangers 112 (12)
2016– Cardiff City 118 (15)

Steven Caulker;
2013–2014 Cardiff City 38 (5)
2014–2017 Queens Park Rangers 50 (3)

Alex Smithies;
2015–2018 Queens Park Rangers 107 (0)
2018– Cardiff City 10 (0)

Match Preview;
Another week I feel the need to get the next matchday thread up nice and early to move on from the last game: Cardiff are fresh from a win against 6th place Sheffield Wednesday, and haven't lost in 4 games. A win could see them move into the top 6. We now haven't won in 4, and I'm hoping we won't continue to drop down the table, but we are still a fair way from serious trouble. I wasn't there yesterday, but from what I have seen in the highlights, the defending/goal keeping was shocking...personally, I think we have to bring back Kelly ASAP as Lumley looks like a keeper with no confidence at all. Others who were at the game can tell me if I am being harsh.

Team news
QPR: Charlie Owens (knee), Yoann Barbet (hamstring).

Cardiff City: Joe Bennett (eye), Joe Ralls (hand), Isaac Vassell (thigh), Matthew Connolly (ankle).

Pre-match words
QPR manager Mark Warburton: "Cardiff have a physicality about the squad and they do what they do very well. They have got good players and we have got to be ready for them. There is a hurt and an anger after the Hull game, so hopefully we can channel that into the Cardiff match.”

Cardiff City manager Neil Harris: "I’ve had a solid return since I’ve been here, but I’ll always demand more from my players and my staff. We made a statement to the rest of the Championship on Sunday, and now we have to follow that up against QPR on Wednesday."

...COME ON YOU SUPER HOOPSA!!!

 

I thought Lumley had played a few games with a bit more confidence and made some decent saves the last few games, but that was a simple ball to catch yesterday. Ok they all make mistakes that don't cost so much as a Keepers, but then he compounded that by seeming so inactive for their 2nd as well. Think we have to bring back Kelly too.

 

Great work as usual Dave - many thanks

Has anyone else noticed that just about any player listed as having played for us and our opponents has a better goal ratio playing for the opponents??

 

Shocking that Alex Smithies has only played 8 games for them in a season and a half...….what a waste...….would love to see him back here even on loan for the rest of the season...…..sigh!!!!!!

 

Thing is he went to catch it with his palms facing out rather than gathering the ball into his chest, maybe he was thinking about quick distribution before having the ball under control, whatever it was it was a calamitous mistake and another to add to the 5 or 6 previous ones that have cost us goals and point this season...….

 

Error on my part...he has actually played 10.

 

It was a calamitous mistake, but 9 times out of 10 he'd have got away with it by dropping on the ball. This time the striker was right here.

 

I do like Lumley and he has made plenty of decent stops but unlike previous keepers who have also had huge mistakes in them and cost us points (Green for example) I don't remember many games where he's played a blinder and earned (or saved) us points. For me he's too flat footed and indecisive and often a bit dozy. Still think he's got potential but given our defence is shaky he can't be inspiring much confidence. Tough decision for Warbs.

 

Still a shockingly low number for a keeper of his talent....

 

Lumley is 24. Isn't that pretty young for a keeper?
Worse case scenario is he goes now and develops into an amazing keeper in 3 to 5 years.
Would hate for us to be kicking ourselves for not adopting the longer term view.

 

Freeman doesn't seen to be getting much playing time at Blades either.

 

Regarding Lumley, you're not being harsh.

 

I'd take the chance!

 

Team news updated, let's hope we start 2020 in the right way!

 

Total waste of talent, best keeper in the Championship when he was with us.

 

With Cardiff being one of those teams I have an irrational dislike for and our iffy form I'd really, really appreciate a win today.

 

Another game?






Yay!

 

Honestly, if you were a scout, would you be touting him as a future star? Nah...

He seems like a good bloke but I can't see him being better than average. He has been WOEFUL this season. Let's not forget that. He only got his starting spot back from Kelly due to injury.

If he goes somewhere else and gets his head together, that will probably be because he changes environment and gets some head space and distance from his awful work this season. It won't be in spite of leaving us.

But I don't think he'll ever be a significant keeper anywhere.

 

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No Hugill, and Cameron and Wallace at full back. Wells lone striker again. Looks like another painful afternoon, I hope to be surprised.