Race To The Death Debating Stakes. Group 8.

Would members please give their 1,2,3 positions and comments(no holds barred!) on the following race.
All types of bets allowed- except place only!
Anyone wishing to add a commentary - after bets are struck- would be appreciated. My commentary will follow later.
NB. Any member not included can be supplemented and allocated a horse.
Simply answer the question (One chance only). Two current English coins add up to 3p and one of them is not a 2p. What are they?
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to everyone!

NOT606 FAMOUS FILM HORSES DEBATING STAKES-GROUP 8 (16 Year old +)
Going : Arduous. Number of Runners : 8. Distance: To the death. Location: Australian Outback.
Prize Money : Highly Bred Talking Bactrian Camel.
Weights : 50 + Year Old Seasoned Geldings : 9st 2 lbs.
16 + Year Old Colts : 9st
Fillies : Not allowed

1. Topper.....................Rainermariarilke 9st 2lbs
2.Trigger................ .....Nassau Board 9st
3. Fury ........................OddDog 9st
4. My Friend Flicka..... redcgull 9st
5. Silver.......................SwanHills 9st
6.Mister Ed..................Sir Barney Chuckles 9st
7.Hidalgo................ ....Bustino 9st
8. Black Beauty............Floridaspearl 9st


FORM GUIDE.

TOPPER. Horse and jockey are the oldest in the race and, as geldings, must carry the extra 2 lbs. Their banter will stay the distance though, and just may be surprise winners!
TRIGGER. Always liable to have one or two tricks up his sleeve, this enigmatic Group 9 contender cannot be ruled out. His rider’s vast experience on dirt tracks will stand him in good stead.
FURY. Big money winner, but will his naturalised Kraut jockey take this race seriously- and will he withstand the ruthless verbals in the back straight?
MY FRIEND FLICKA. Ideal temperament for this race, but his jockey is carrying overweight- supports Preston and this alone must make him a long odds outsider!
SILVER. Established performer in this grade, but can he act on the going? His jockey will compete at
every level though, and will not be shouted down by any jockey .
MISTER ED. The racing public feel this jockey booking is unfair- the horse can talk as well as the rider, even if every other word is “Nicky this, Nicky that!” Odds on at present, but odds ons don’t always win!
HIDALGO. Strong second favourite. All distances up “to the death” pose no problem- likewise the going. Ideal jockey booking, but is he ruthless enough in a finish?
BLACK BEAUTY. Best looking horse in the race, but has he recovered from the hiding he got in the film? His rider has more experience than most, though, and he argues well! Good prospects.

SUMMARY. Mister Ed will, as usual,set a fast pace and his rider’s experience of ‘taking the nicky’ is invaluable. Yet will Trigger and Silver cut him up on the final bend? Hidalgo’s proven stamina must come to the fore, but don’t underestimate Topper- his rider's a wily old character!

CURRENT ODDS.

10/11 Mister Ed
5/2 Hidalgo
7/2 Black Beauty
4/1 Trigger
7/1 Silver
9/1 Topper
10/1 Fury
20/1 My Friend Flicka

 

Latest betting……Fury 8/1. His jockey is noted for his Saxon bullshit. Rumour has it he’s training hard and joined debating classes in the Kurfurstenstrasse.

 

Erm, Silver scratched due runny nose and general malaise. Will be taken to Vet . for scans and general check-up.

 

Thanks, Oddy, was just meant to be a bit of a joke on Tamerlo's thread. Backfired a bit. Christmas Day dinner was great, missus excelled, and can't wait for 'bubble & squeak' tomorrow, which I have always liked even better than main meal. Am keeping OK, bit up and down of course, but that's pretty normal for old codgers like me!

 

Rumour has it Mister Ed will be pulled out at final declarations as the race is too competitive and he will go for a racecourse gallop instead.

My money is on Hidalgo, shrewd jockey and let’s face it the others are all bonkers.

I am surprised that we are missing the flat fanatics in Grendel and QM. However let’s face it, they’d bore everyone senseless.

 

Careful, Nass, or Trigger will lose his firing pin!

 

A Racing Post reporter writes:

The connections of Topper have confirmed that the gelding will run in the Outback classic, despite their anger at his penalty, which they describe as 'perverse, irrational, taking no account of current form or winning prizemoney, and apparently motivated entirely by envy'. Their tall, rugged and firm-jawed jockey added: 'We are supporting the race because we agree with its decision to exclude fillies: unlike their timid and vacillating counterparts in the UK, the Outback Racing Authority Licensing Standards Executive (ORALSEX) has not been taken in by weepy, self-promoting, manipulative young women'.

The tanned, muscular, clear-eyed rider went on: 'If Topper wins, as he certainly should against this collection of has-beens and never-wases, I will come out of the sauna, open my towel and shake myself in front of the the stewards' box'.

After the interview, Topper - who was foaled in the same year (1935) as his popular and charismatic pilot - was cut from 9-1 to 8-13 on all the main exchanges.

 

Is that the price to be alive when the race starts?

 

Rainer, magic, just magic. However, if you think an old codger like you can’t carry an extra 2 pounds, then I’m afraid it’s the knackers yard and onto Evostik for final squeeze of the tube.
As for shaking yourself in front of the stewards’ box, those old ditherers don’t bother about trifles. So keep it in your pocket for ‘larger tasks.’
PS. Now watch your price drift on the exchanges.

 

Come on, all you bloated Christmas puddings, pick your 1,2,3’s and get your bets on!
The King George will have nothing on this titanic slog in the outback.
I hope you all had a happy Christmas Day with your family.

 

I see the old boy had 18 entries tomorrow but only 4 have turned into actual declarations! Although, it must be said that, these do include Shishkin.

In the above heat I think Mister Ed is wonderfully weighted against some very exposed types. Maximum stakes, people. I'm sure the dear old regular readers will be on at that attractive looking 10/11.

 

Not your usual pony, eh? Seems the Christmas spirit has has given you the DTs. Poor Fury will sense he’s got a disbeliever aboard!

 

That’s the spirit! Keep talking, Sir Barney. You’ve frightened off already Fury and his overweight Teuton.

 

Fine work Tamerlo. As for predictions number 1 usually carries the most weight for a reason.

 

Not that it makes a scrap of difference, but to oorrect my foggy and misleading posts yesterday:

Silver, non-runner due abysmal showing on the training gallops. Apologies to all on ante-post. Rider would probably have had too much lead in the saddle anyway.